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Hunt backs Sunak and probably stays as Chancellor and hopefully the markets and the economy will be stabilised.

And stability is of course, the first brick in the base for growth.

My remaining reservation is that although Sunak said the right things during Leadership round 1, I thought he was profligate as Chancellor during the pandemic. But he's learned it seems.

Cabinet changes will be interesting - let's hope Sunak brings back some wiser and experienced heads. I'd be happy to see Grant Schapps (Home) and James Cleverly (Foreign) replaced immediately and Moggy consigned to history at last.

I wonder if Boris might be even now be offered Foreign ? Give Liz a special brief to sort out the N.I . protocol ? A role for Michael Gove ? It'll be interesting . . . .

It's gonna be an torrid year or two. Let's hope our Govt. do as well as is possible.
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Johnson was terrible as Foreign Secretary and is damaged goods.  Remember this?:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqLIm0HOvuQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqLIm0HOvuQ</a>

I think he will resign as an MP very soon: knows he can earn £££££ elsewhere and is yesterday's news. He's not coming back. And Liz Truss has proved she has no political acumen despite what she thinks - leave her on the backbenches. They do need Gove back, even though he seems to have a drug problem: making him Home Secretary in charge of policing would be a nice touch of irony.

For Foreign Secretary he could look to the House of Lords: Lord Hammond has previous and would be able to step into the role. Having an experienced, known person as FS might go some way to restoring relations with our international friends.


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Wow. Thanks for that video, CK. BJ obviously loves his literature but thank goodness the ambassador knew his stuff too. Well done, Ambassador Patrick.

Apparently, the former ambassador to Myanmar, Andrew Patrick, lived in Thailand for a year after leaving Myanmar. Working remotely from Bangkok, he worked as an adviser to the Department for Culture Media and Sport on Combatting Online Disinformation and Manipulation.

I believe he is now the UK’s Migration and Modern Slavery Envoy. https://twitter.com/andrewptkfcdo?lang=en


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CK yes I remember that BJ gaffe, evenso, I wouldn't totally write him off for the future  ;)  And IMO he did OK with foreign affairs as PM. BUT I wouldn't put him in charge of the next pandemic, if there is one  :-X

Good luck to Rishi and I hope this 'Suella' stuff goes away soon. let's move on, there's much to do.

My hobby horse BUT there is much to recommend it - take the Media right out of Downing St. The PM and Chancellor and families need a little space and privacy. There are serious security risks to consider and that applies also to the Media camping outside Ministers and MP's homes   >:(  The shouting of questions is routine and in effect, bullying - the Media need reigning in in this respect.

You mention Gove - well he's back and that's great - loopy Liz, still smarting after various comments from Rishi, won't like this Guardian article AT ALL . . . https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/29/michael-gove-says-tories-should-apologise-for-liz-trusss-holiday-from-reality
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I just had a look at the UK tax rates.

For the last several years of my career, I paid tax at 40% as the then threshold was earnings of 40k. I feel cheated as the threshold is now at 50k! Okay, that would have affected me as well. But not for so long.

But terming the top rate of tax of 45% on earnings +150k as a 'rich persons tax' is just playing political games. Because it's just not true. I see the article quoted is originally from The Sun. Sounds like a start of a campaign for the Tories to 'out Labour' Labour to me. Which was very successful in the past. Blair worked out that the only way Labour could get elected was to woo the middle classes, you know, those who could afford to pay higher taxes.  Seems like the Tories will be doing the same for the upwardly mobile of potential Labour voters.


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Caller a Friend last night commented - 'of course, there's almost no difference now between Tory and Labour policy'.

I agree, 'almost no', but some . . . .  ;)

Let's see how it goes - difficult times for sure  :P
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OMG   :o   ::)  following ultra ignomious exits from :-

BIG BAD BORIS

LOONY LIZ

we now have

DAFT AND DOPEY HANCOCK

How potty is he ? Enjoy the Jungle  Matt  ::)

The only good thing - this Cock has surely crowed it's last. Surely he's out of Politics for good.
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Hancock should have his pay docked while he's away, and he should be deselected for the next election.


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As for Rishi Sunak, he has gone down in my estimation for reappointing Suella Braverman as Home Secretary so quickly after her "error of judgment" forced her out. Less than a week then she gets the same job!


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As for Rishi Sunak, he has gone down in my estimation for reappointing Suella Braverman as Home Secretary so quickly after her "error of judgment" forced her out. Less than a week then she gets the same job!

I listen to The Rest is Politics podcast with Rory Stewart and Alistair Campbell. They discuss this very topic and the reasons for it; the small ERG faction in parliament that effectively holds the Conservative party to ransom and is the reason for Sunak reappointing Braverman. They also speculate that she will be short-lived; her back catalogue will catch up with her. Given how she stuck the knife into Truss, even though it has since emerged that the story spun at the time of a 'lapse of judgement' by someone tired, and which was 'immediately reported' turns out to have been a pack of lies, she will not go easily or quietly. She could well be the catalyst that causes the next General Election.


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Hi CK - each to his own but both Alistair Campbell and Rory Stewart are anathema to me.

Campbell - "Since his work for Blair, Campbell has continued to act as a freelance advisor to a number of governments and political parties, including the Prime Minister of Albania" and previously, Blair's right hand man  >:(  Iraq   >:(

Stewart - Unsuccessful bids for Tory Leader and Mayor of London. For me an embittered poser and know all   ::)

Quote 'the small ERG faction in parliament that effectively holds the Conservative party to ransom' - really   ???  Sounds extremely unlikely - after all, Penny M withdrew and Sunak was unopposed was he not ? It's too much immersion in the Westminster bubble for me.

I note this podcast is the one most listened to, in which case, God help us !!

Sorry and ATB.
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Alfie I agree about Hancock - I'd be surprised if his Constituents don't force him out.

Braverman - the question is, can she do the job   ???   ::)  I must say, I doubt it.
So Rishi DUMP her and put in Michael Gove - man of action . . . .   ;)
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I'd just really like the new Government to be given a chance. People are stirring up shit, not for the good of the Country, but for their own end. I think people are sick of it.


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Caller - despite my comment about Gove - I agree 100%

The trouble is both sides are constantly carping and the media, once they perceive a target, are like the dog with a bone. BBC and Sky are relentless and in the end - the target usually falls.

Peg 'em back and chuck them out of Downing St for a start.

Yes people are sick of it . . . .  ATB
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Poor ole' Liz is taking regular bashings for the GBP 50 billion black hole. Is that actually fair ? Surely, the damage caused by the mini-budget was largely reversed after it was cancelled ?

Our PM as Chancellor ran the economy for the last few years. The B o E was very slow to make increases in interest rates. Govt and B o E have been in tandem in getting the UK into this situation, the pandemic and Ukraine not forgotten.

Nov 18th will be interesting. Meantime immigration is a major problem - there are very alarming undercurrents atm. Hopefully, Suella is up to the job but no evidence of that yet! And Williamson - it doesn't look good for him - he's behaved very badly, again.

'Oh it's Truss's fault' is a bit too convenient. Not that she helped, but . . . .
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SIR ? Gavin Williamson has resigned - good - that tidies him up quickly  :)  I can hardly imagine his arrogance.

I wonder if Suella B is getting things done at Manston now ? From 4000 down to 1,600 ? I do wonder where they have gone - maybe they put them in boats and towed them back   ;)

'File on 4' https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001dx77 'The Albanian exodus'. Monthly pay there is GBP 250-400. It's the simple ambition of most ordinary youngsters to get out to, 'little America'.
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