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Whilst the mire is in Yorkshire mainly (atm), what's to be said about it ? No one is going to defend racism in any way but surely, there's a 'woke' influence to some degree, in these sudden discoveries ?

I've been surprised in the past at the nastiness one can hear fielding close to the bat and 'sledging' has been widespread in cricket (wrongly IMO) for time immemorial, I dread to think what 'racist' gems might have been included. 'Banter' ? Maybe.

At Yorkshire and the BBC, 'McCarthyism' has broken out - jobs lost, no trial etc. Poor old Michael Vaughan has been sorely treated at the BBC IMO and I hope he takes the BBC to an Industrial Tribunal  >:(  AS for not too blameless himself, Mr Rafiq, I hope he's happy now   ;)

UNLIKE all England fans who are NOT happy atm.
Leaving out Broad and Anderson and batting first was potty IMO. One down in Oz and struggling from the first ball - well done England for the better second innings effort but, we are not amused   :o :o   ::) ::)

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/dec/11/ashes-gabba-england-australia-first-test-match-report-root-stokes-buttler-lyon-starc-carey
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Hallelujah   :D  England didn't lose a test Match   ;)

Heroic performances from Bairstow, Stokes, Crawley, Wood, Broad, Anderson and Leach. But for Khawaja scoring centuries for the Aussies in both innings, it might have been tighter than a 'losing' draw   ;)

Great to see and good to listen on R5 live thanks to TW's 'Hola' !
(Good on yer Cobber}.

Here's the irreplaceable Boycott on podcast https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2022/01/09/jos-buttler-should-not-play-another-test-joe-root-should-bat/
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England lose series in West Indies after an abject session with the new ball failed to finish off the Windies tail was followed by a desperately poor batting performance. Even though I'm a Yorkshireman I thing Root's time is up as captain. Stokes says he doesn't want the job leaving Stuart Broad as only candidate from the current squad. My pick would be James Vince. To get him in the team I would give Bairstow the wicketkeeper gloves. What do you think?
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James Vince - that's an interesting idea. Of course, Ben Stokes would be a popular choice but having had time off for recuperation in recent times one wonders if he would want the job or maybe be unable to cope. I think Ben should stay vice-Captain.

Stuart Broad might be worth a try but a bit off the wall, I'd fancy Johnny Bairstow as Captain, his devotion to his England cricket is certain.

Broad and Anderson must be played until they drop ! We have no-one to match them as we have just found out. Now bottom of the World test rankings, the England team is a shambles.

I'd like to see this happen : "Justin Langer would be open to the possibility of coaching England if offered the job as the rebuilding of the Test team gathers pace after the defeat in West Indies. Telegraph Sport understands from sources close to Langer that he is interested in talking to the ECB about the vacant role of head coach." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2022/03/28/justin-langer-keen-vacant-england-head-coach-role/ He would certainly shake 'em up a bit - it'd be goodbye at last to Joe's cozy World.

So Bairstow, Stokes, Root, Broad/Anderson, Wood, Leach, Crawley, Mahmood/Archer - surely we can build back around some of them. Vince is maybe a good idea.

As someone once said https://youtu.be/Dl-ai9HuR60

LET'S HOPE SO !!!!
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England get their 2nd win in EIGHTEEN matches    ???

A great game against New Zealand with Joe Root seeing us through after dramatic ups and down on both sides.

The return of Anderson and Broad vindicated IMO and Potts had match figures of 7-68. Let's hope he gets to repeat that one day.

But the batting line up causes consternation again . . . . .

Thank God for the cricket - helped me survive the Jubilee weekend  ::)

Roll on the 2nd Test on Friday  ;D
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A glorious summer.
Rolled over the Kiwis and the Safas, with a win against India almost thrown in for free.

What do we get next?

Seven. Repeat seven 20/20s in Pakistan.

Just what is needed..........................................................................................


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Yes what a fantastic season for the England test side  :o   ;D

A whitewash of New Zealand in the 3 tests, the Indian win AND recovering from a dire effort in the first test against South Africa to win 2-1.

I'll be honest - sometimes I couldn't believe my eyes. Some of these wins seemed to be conjured out of a no chance position. Never seen so many 'turnarounds'   ;D

The greatest credits go to our new Coach, Brendan McCullum and the new Captain, Ben Stokes. But there were other startling efforts. English cricket is NOT in ashes - at last   ;)

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England's 3rd EVER test win in Pakistan in a game with 1768 runs - that's more than has ever been scored in a 5 day match, after England scored over 500 on the 1st day, also a record.

I must admit I was horrified when Stokes declared to set a target of just 344, in 4 sessions. But the win came with 5 minutes to go with Pakistan 87 short.

Startling stuff and the 2nd test starts this Thursday ?
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Amazing win Roger. England scored 921 runs off 821 balls. Pakistan batted for 114 overs more than England. England won with 10 men(Livingstone got injured and was unable to bowl) and without their wicket keeper. Harry Brook scored 240 in the match with 30 4's and 8 6's.
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Thanks Teess. It's good fun init ?

Just incredible. Gotta say I think Stokes declared 10 overs too early but there we are.

My honest analysis - England played extremely well and bravely, but, in the end, were quite lucky!

We'll see. Lucky or not, it's better than losing all the time   ;)

When I saw your post I was of a mind to give up here. If People don't want to chat, why bother ?

BTW - some great stats there. TW watches a lot of cricket I believe. ATB
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A momentous 2nd win in a row and a series win, for England in Pakistan, making a total of 4 in history !!

Despite losing 5-19 at one stage England managed to set a reasonable target.

Another star in Harry Brook? How great to see Mark Wood flying again, Anderson just goes on and on and Ollie Robinson a threat too.

The 3rd Test will be fascinating with Pakistan desperate to win . . .

The improvement in this side since the arrival of McCullum is almost beyond belief!
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At the end of the 2nd day's play, Australia look in a position to take a 1st innings lead.

England have batted and bowled well, but a few missed chances and a declaration have handed the Ozzies the chance of the upper hand.

It'll be interesting to see if Harry Brook can do some serious damage 2nd time around . . . .
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So in the end Australia win but it could have been different.
Stokes could have caught Lyon
Maybe Root could have not thrown away his wicket
Bairstow could have kept stumps better
Stokes could have let Root and Robinson bat until close on 1st day
Moeen's finger could have stayed intact (over bowled in 1st innings?)
Crawley and Ducket unfortunate to have to bat between showers and lost their wickets when the pitch was at its liveliest.
On to next test at Lords. Will Moeen be fit? Bring in Wood? Foakes? Woakes?
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Teess your list shows what a tight (and brilliant) game it was - the declaration was cocky   ::)

I was sure the Oz would get the runs yesterday, 280 not enough against this side.

Robinson's behaviour was disgraceful IMO and particularly unwise as he has already served a long ban for abuse - cricket doesn't need this moronic dimension.

Overall a fabulous game to the end and 4 more to come, in quick succession  :)

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I agree it was a fabulous game and credit to Stokes and co for making it so. Unfortunately not able to watch it as currently in Thailand and yet to master vpn. A stream occasionally appeared on YT and was able to watch for brief periods before the stream died. It was usually an indian stream ripping off the sky sports coverage. Watched the bbc website live reporting in bed till the aussies won. I am not too bothered about Robinson's outburst and I am sure that neither was Khawaja.
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'Not bothered' - maybe so Teess but I hope it's a one off . . ."Ollie Robinson insists he has made up with Usman Khawaja after their verbal clash at Edgbaston but admits the Australian told him 'be careful what you say.' "

The Referee let the game down here . . . "Match referee Andy Pycroft did not believe either incident was serious enough for disciplinary action . . . "

Dear Ole Geoffrey had something to say about this from McCullum : " 'It feels like we won lads.' We've entertained the world and we've put the Aussies on the back foot." (And Robinson) - "For him to say that after a loss is quite significant for us.' "

I agree with the Geoffrey - let's put winning first ! Dig in sometimes . . let's hope England come through. I was hoping Brook would tear them apart - hopefully, that will come. That'll be entertaining  ;)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-12223263/Ollie-Robinson-Usman-Khawaja-Ashes-clash.html
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2nd test tomorrow at Lord's. England drop Moeen Ali in favour of Josh Tongue. So no spinner other than Joe Root. An all pace attack but still no place for Mark Wood or Chris Woakes.
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Yes Teess the lack of real pace was evident on this obliging pitch. There's a lot of criticism of England's preparation and attitude  ::)   No real pace and no specialist spinner - over to you Joe !

Never mind, if we can get the Aussies out for 400, match it and then bowl them out cheaply, who knows ?

Mark Wood - apparently a week too early for his elbow problem. Woakes ?
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That's better - all out 416   :)

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You spoke too soon Roger. A calamitous 3rd day for England. Australia well ahead with 8 wickets left as England facing a 2nd loss in 2 tests despite winning both tosses. Strangely the only England player not batting in Bazball style is Ben Stokes.
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