The President Trump thread . . .

Roger · **on:** January 22, 2017, 06:39:10 PM

Well here we are then.
Good luck DT and the USA and us all. (DT is Trump).

Here comes the treeshake and although this is from the loathsome Daily Express - I really hope, there is truth in this story. And in which case - well done DT !

Brexit - I'm so glad we are on our way out of the EU - whatever the cost.
The EU is bonkers 'squared'. JMVHO.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/757235/Donald-Trump-EU-Army-Nato-funding-European-Union-President

Roger · **Reply #1 on:** January 26, 2017, 06:17:48 AM

Crikey, good 'ole Pres. Trump and his team seem to be 'hitting the ground running' in the first week. Ditching trade agreements under negotiation, squaring up to China in the S.China seas, getting billionaire M8's into his Cabinet, dissing the EU and renewing his vows on the wall on the Mexican border and to return illegal immigrants, mooting harsher interrogation for terrorism suspects and so on.
Hells bells ! As DT now has to be considered a 'Politician', (or does he ?), here is a 'Politician' doing what he promised.

Roger · **Reply #2 on:** January 26, 2017, 06:48:35 PM

Donald Trump is older than me and most of K-F.
And running the World's only true 'superpower'.
But in this case, maybe not moving in a good direction?
Sorry about this Guys - it's the Grauniad again !
Just MVHO but I could be wrong. Again.
Max. eighteen months before the Republicans get rid of him ?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/25/trump-executive-order-torture-black-sites-guantanamo-bay

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/jan/26/does-torture-work-and-is-it-worth-the-cost-donald-trump

Roger · **Reply #3 on:** January 31, 2017, 02:34:01 PM

After 10 dramatic days with President Trump, things in the USA are hotting up !

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/31/donald-trump-sacks-us-attorney-general-sally-yates-defiance/

(Aussie. Whilst this is from an MSM sorce, MSM are reporting actual events and sometimes, a fact is a fact. This IS happening. President Trump's 'treeshake' has started).

Roger · **Reply #4 on:** February 02, 2017, 09:33:54 AM

Hells bells ! As soon as I read one Trump headline in my beloved 'Grauniad', it gets relegated and a NEW one appears . .

First listening to 'The World Tonight' on BBC, it seems that Bob Ferguson, Attorney General for the State of Washington, is going to challenge Pres. Trump's 90 day ban on immigration from 7 Arab states, on multiple grounds, as being in contravention of the U.S. Constitution. Ferguson has the support of Companies such as Amazon, Expedia, Facebook, Apple, Starbucks and Box. Other States too are considering action.

Then Grauniad 1 :-
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/01/iran-trump-michael-flynn-on-notice

Followed quickly by Grauniad 2 :-

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/02/bad-hombres-reports-claim-trump-threatened-to-send-troops-to-mexico

The volatile nature of President Trump might arguably actually increase the deterrent value but we are just as likely to end up in some awful mess somewhere. Just MO.

I ask how long Pres. Trump can stand up to being vilified and sued without moderating his style or maybe, giving up. President of the USA is much more complicated than running his admittedly massive businesses.

Strewth ! Watch this space eh ?

Alfie · **Reply #5 on:** February 02, 2017, 10:06:32 AM

The Trump administration has said it was “officially putting Iran on notice”

The official declined to say whether the White House had sent a message to Tehran putting it on notice.

“We are in the second week. We do not want to be premature or rash or take any action that would foreclose options or unnecessarily contribute to a negative response.”

Roger · **Reply #6 on:** February 02, 2017, 06:29:18 PM

Lots to read in the World of Trump.
The Aussie PM has a problem now - - Aussie ?
IMO all this is fascinating until a War starts - I truly hope that it won't.
Pres. Trump is 70. Chok dee !

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/02/donald-trump-appease-oppose-nations-governments-reacting

jivvy · **Reply #7 on:** February 02, 2017, 09:43:59 PM

Trumps wall

Roger · **Reply #8 on:** February 03, 2017, 07:01:13 PM

So the treeshake continues . . . . .
Quite amazing. 'Unhelpful' yes indeed - diplomatically put IMHO.
(On this one I do agree with DT).
Watch this space and G'night all.
ATB

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/03/trump-says-israeli-settlements-not-impediment-to-peace-but-expansion-unhelpful

dam12641 · **Reply #9 on:** February 03, 2017, 08:15:44 PM

So The Donald is not diplomatic.
Yes we all knew that.
He may upset a few people.
Yes we all expected that.
None of that matters.

It's the economy.
He will get that right.

The US economy (and therefore the world economy) will roar over the next 4 years.
That is the important thing.

jivvy · **Reply #10 on:** February 03, 2017, 08:24:42 PM

Roger · **Reply #11 on:** February 04, 2017, 08:02:14 AM

Well done Jivvy.

Dam12641 - sorry my post not clear - you misunderstand me.
The article is about DT saying that more Israeli 'settlements' are unhelpful.

I was a little surprised at this 'tack' from DT.
An extremely sensitive issue and DT is right to bring it forward IMO.
I guess the Israelis will be surprised.
And IMO 'diplomatically put' by DT.

He's full of surprises . .

jivvy · **Reply #12 on:** February 04, 2017, 08:13:58 AM

Donald Trump steps out of the White House in the dead of winter. Right in front of him, on the White House lawn, he sees “Donald Trump Sucks” written in urine across the snow.

Well, he's pretty ticked off. He storms into his security staff’s HQ, and reads the security guys the riot act, while they stay silent and stare ashamedly at the floor.

Trump hollers “Well dammit, don’t just sit there! Get out and find out who did it! I want an answer, and I want it tonight!”

Later that evening, the chief security officer approaches Trump and says: “Well Mr. President, we have some bad news and we have some really bad news. Which do you want first?”

Trump says “Give me the bad news first.”

The officer says “Well, we took a sample of the urine and tested it. The results just came back, and it was Mike Pence’s urine.”

Trump says “Oh my, I feel so... so... betrayed! My own vice-president! Damn. ...well, what’s the really bad news?”

The officer replies “Well, it’s Melania’s handwriting.”

Roger · **Reply #13 on:** February 06, 2017, 09:57:46 AM

A quote published in the MSM Grauniad.

President Trump on President Putin of Russia :-
''He is a leader of his country. I say it’s better to get along with Russia than not and if Russia helps us in the fight against Isis which is a major fight, and Islamic terrorism all over the world, major fight, that’s a good thing''.

Better to get along with than not to get along with. I agree.
And better not to push dangerous Leaders like Putin too much to the margins.

Trump's comments on new Israeli settlements in occupied territory also seemed correct to me. Let's hope DT can hold it together in the face of all the criticism and embarassment with the Juduciary overturning his Immigration measures.

Interesting times indeed.

Roger · **Reply #14 on:** February 07, 2017, 05:06:00 PM

Well the DT comment about Israeli settlements doesn't amount to much apparently - more's the pity. I wonder if the greatest achievement of DT will be to rid the UK of the IMHO undesirable John Bercow as Speaker of the House of Commons ?
Better not to push dangerous Leaders to the margin - DT ?
Aussie where are you ? Jivvy ?

Alfie · **Reply #15 on:** February 12, 2017, 12:20:00 PM

Imagine ...

jivvy · **Reply #16 on:** February 26, 2017, 02:35:32 PM

Roger · **Reply #17 on:** March 17, 2017, 06:52:54 PM

Well this is a fast moving story - so much so, one wonders what to post or not.

A word for the US President - you may be judged by the Company you keep !

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/17/us-makes-formal-apology-britain-white-house-accuses-gchq-wiretapping/

What a shambles. At least Britain seems to have bridled a little or 'stood up for Britain'.

I hope Obama's Lawyers are working on this one already.

Alfie · **Reply #18 on:** March 18, 2017, 04:39:56 PM

Is Trump is the most unprofessional US president ever? It looks to me like he's trying hard to get that title.

Roger · **Reply #19 on:** March 19, 2017, 04:50:11 AM

Alfie IMO DT has earned that title already.
President Trump conducts business with the demeanour of a child.
And he's obviously not going to be holding hands with Angela Merkel in the future.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/18/donald-trump-says-germany-owes-vast-sums-money-nato-us/

Nevertheless, the Guy sometimes has a point. Time for Germany, France, Belgium and all to contribute fairly to their own defence.