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FAA disregarded safety flaws during the certification of Boeing 737 MAX, sources

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This is an earlier model 737-500 not a "Max".
I will stick my neck out here, until I can get more info. The Aircraft of today are DEIGNED to be flown every day, the philosophy is to fill them with paying passengers and keep them flying. When A/C are not in service ie flying, they still require maintenance, which = $$$$.
Now what has happend over the passed 11 months, to many questions here.
1 when was it last flown?
2, what is the service history on this A/C?
3, was the service completed correctly and fully signed off?
and many more questions to be asked.
I will have to research this one with some of the known aviation reporters out there and report back, I hope they find this one?
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More here https://simpleflying.com/sriwijaya-737-contact-lost/

Read the graph speed vs altitude, look at the last 30 seconds of flight from nearly 10000 ft to sea level and notice the speed initially falls off but at around 3500ft the speed suddenly accelerates, In my assesment this can only mean one thing, RIP to all.
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Initial reports coming in,    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt_nUdQQqxI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt_nUdQQqxI</a>
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Thanks KC look forward to more on SJ-182

Back to the Boeing 737 Max 800

". . . a senior Boeing employee has thrown the aircraft into doubt with the publication of an extensive paper claiming not everything has been resolved."

https://simpleflying.com/easa-max-too-soon/

And the Indy - " “One in 25 Max airplanes had already experienced a safety incident within the first year of being in service, two of which happened to be fatal crashes. This track record is unprecedented in modern-day aircraft. The FAA’s recertification fixes fail to adequately address these issues.

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/boeing-737-max-crash-faults-b1792183.html
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" . . . . . one former Boeing pilot told the author… “It’s a pig with lipstick’. Another employee went on record saying that the 737 Max was…. “Designed by clowns, who in turn are supervised by monkeys”."

https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/transport/is-the-new-boeing-737-max-safe-to-fly-a-new-book-makes-you-wonder
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Thanks Rodger for the update.

In the new book “Boeing 737 Max safe to fly?” report in the Thaiger, there is one major mistake,
The Thaiger is quoting that:
Buyers of the fatally-flawed aircraft would even be expected to add an Angle of Attack gauge to the 737 Max as an optional extra, with a list price of US$80,000. Neither of the two crashed aircraft had these vital gauges on their planes.”
This is wrong it should read
 “Buyers of the fatally-flawed aircraft would even be expected to add the optional 2nd Angle of Attack gauge to the 737 Max……”
The first AOA is standard and drives the MCAS system, the events were caused by erroneous signals from the 1 AOA without a chance of verification from a 2nd AOA, as is on the 787.

Boeing is not clean on the 787 as well.
Since 2009 Boeing have wanted to move the 787 line from Everett, WA to Charleston SC, but only in March 2021 does all 787 assembly shift to SC. Where there are still production problems that still exist.


787 Problems back in 2014
Assembly problems in Charleston SC, drag on Everett, 2014-02-03
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/787-assembly-problems-in-charleston-drag-on-everett/
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On 'Netflix' a new documentary on the Boeing 737 MAX

"Rory Kennedy presents a straightforward and sobering documentary “Downfall: The Case Against Boeing”, and nails the responsibility of the deaths of the 346 terrified passengers and crews, solely at the feet of a greedy and corporately flawed manufacturer.

Boeing’s conduct, to regulators, to the families of the deceased passengers, to the stockholders, has been reprehensible throughout, and the documentary paints a vivid portrayal of a US manufacturer that still believes its own hubris and never taken responsibility for the deaths of the people who innocently bought tickets to sit in two, almost brand new, Boeing planes
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https://youtu.be/vt-IJkUbAxY

More insights on Thaiger https://thethaiger.com/hot-news/transport/is-the-new-boeing-737-max-safe-to-fly-netflix-documentary-downfall

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The culture change at Boeing started with the buyout and integration of MacDonald Douglas into Boeing.
Boeing being a major civil aviation manufacturer as well as defense contractor / manufacturer. MD on the other hand at the time of the merger was mainly a defense contractor / manufacturer, with bean counters at the top of the food chain, where as Boeing was predominantly run by engineers and bean counters came second. Under that regime public safety was paramount and they had the FAA behind them.
Now with the changes over the past years the FAA has lost confidence in Boeing's ability to certify on behalf of the FAA.
See this on the 787 quality

To add to Boeing’s dilemma
Boeing cannot self-certify,' US to inspect new 787 Dreamliners
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKCGssPRkMs

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Thanks KC. I see the 737 MAX is flying quite widely in the Americas now. In Europe I believe it's only Tui and Ryan Air so far.

Don't fancy it myself and I guess I'm not alone.

Interesting reassurance in a clip from Air Canada here https://samchui.com/2021/02/15/which-airlines-are-currently-flying-the-boeing-737-max/#.YhH9jpYxXv8
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Thanks Roger.

I used to follow Sam on YT before the calamity but haven't seen much of him lately. good article though.
But I'm with you, not too confident on the Max8, one engineer at Boeing said that all they had to do was put a couple of other modules as they are in the 787 and you would not have this problem, but the bean counters scratched that one for not only the cost in components, but also in crew training.
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