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Title: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on March 08, 2019, 08:55:43 AM
In an interview with the BBC, Amber Rudd was talking about on-line abuse, sympathising with Diane Abbot as an example, because she IS coloured (or black) and THAT being so, attracts more abuse - (wrongly of course). An accurate description of Diane Abbot with the best of intent IMO.

Discussing this balanced comment, the Daily Mirror have to join the PC mob . . .

''Amber Rudd has inexplicably referred to Diane Abbott as a "coloured woman". The Work and Pensions secretary used the outdated and offensive term when discussing abuse suffered by politicians.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-amber-rudd-inexplicably-refers-14101319

I'm sorry but who decided that 'coloured' as a description is an ''outdated and offensive term''. It's accurate, relevant and actually used in a sensitive way.

Watch the clip - what do you think ?   8)
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on November 06, 2019, 02:22:43 PM
The PC / Me Too brigade gather strength.

A candidate for PC plonker of 2019 - John Legend - American Folk Singer.

The irreplaceable fun song, 'Baby it's cold outside', has to be rewritten unless we are corrupted in some way. I love that song ! Leave it alone.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7626583/John-Legend-Kelly-Clarkson-rewrite-lyrics-Baby-Cold-Outside.html
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: rdrokit on November 07, 2019, 09:15:05 AM
PC sins - who decides?  Who cares? I sure don't.
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on November 07, 2019, 12:15:14 PM
OK RDRO that's fair enough. Personally this PC stuff drives me up the wall and I don't think I'm alone. Why not post about something you do care about yourself ?
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on November 08, 2019, 04:56:51 PM
I see a Labour Candidate has just stepped down because he used the word, "Shylock" in some context or other. FGS ! Even worse, poor old Alf Garnett bites the dust  . . . .

"It is the streaming service that promises classic BBC and ITV shows from decades past, offering viewers a chance to wallow in nostalgia. But anyone hoping to re-watch Till Death Us Do Part or Love Thy Neighbour will not find them on Britbox. Their politically incorrect subject matter has been deemed inappropriate for modern audiences."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/07/best-british-tv-streaming-service-attracts-complaints-emerges/
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Teessider on November 08, 2019, 08:07:31 PM
I recently watched a programme on seventies TV. In it black comedian Derek Griffiths was shown in a clip singing the Boney M song Melting Pot. He got to the line "mixed with yellow Chinky" whereupon he used his fingers to narrow his eyes! Those were the days eh!
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on November 14, 2019, 04:06:51 AM
THOSE were the days Teess - here we go again - in an article more about the BBC than 'West Side Story', there's more revisionist  stuff to make the PC averse, grind teeth  :(

"Everywhere you looked this week, culture was busy trying to correct the mistakes of the past. The new Broadway production of West Side Story has cut Maria's song "I Feel Pretty": the director explains he wants a rendition fit "for the 21st century". Because, as we know, young women of today have ceased caring about their appearance, no longer enjoy getting dressed up for a big night out and are wholly indifferent to their attractiveness to the opposite sex. If there is still such a thing as the opposite sex, that is. Last time I looked, we were up to seven genders but, hey, it's still only Wednesday ! ." . . . . . . .

"The same wilfully wrongheaded thinking dominates at the BBC. No period drama is safe any more from the drip-drip of politically correct views, regardless of how bizarre they appear in a historical context. We will have to wait till Sunday night to see whether the latest adaptation of HG Wells's War of the Worlds is travesty or triumph. (As is now de rigueur, it has ignored the novel, put a woman and a gay guy centre stage and pushed aside the white straight men who were so annoyingly prevalent in Victorian England.)"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/bbc-leading-charge-rewriting-culture-suit-woke-brigade/
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: sfs on November 15, 2019, 12:41:46 AM
BritBox: 'inappropriate' classic UK TV shows to be kept off service

Sounds like this will be a roaring success..............not

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/nov/07/britbox-uk-networks-plan-to-tackle-netflix-amazon-and-apple-tv
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on March 14, 2020, 12:48:44 PM
Dam thanks for this one earlier - worth a watch indeed :-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUuZMyqhUUk

Moving on - Laurence Fox :-

"Today saw an unlikely blow struck in the battle against groupthink and ideological conformity. The actors' union Equity apologised to Laurence Fox for calling him a “disgrace” and urging its members to “denounce” him. This followed his appearance on Question Time in January in which he described Britain as the “most tolerant, lovely country in Europe” and said that endlessly accusing the British people of racism is “starting to get really boring now”". . . . . . .

. . . . . "It would be nice to think Fox’s victory represents a “turning point” in the battle to defend free speech, but that, too, would be naïve. For every courageous individual that stands up to the mob, there are thousands who get trampled beneath its stampeding feet."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/13/laurence-foxs-brave-victory-mob-can-show-us-fight-free-speech2/

also https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/13/laurence-foxs-victory-blow-against-hypocrisies-left-wing-luvviedom/

Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on June 16, 2020, 02:44:28 PM
The Lady must be joking !

"Coco Pops has been a much-loved breakfast staple for decades with one of the most recognisable mascots in TV advertising. But Coco the Monkey has come under suspicion from disgraced former Labour MP Fiona Onasanya, who has written to Kellogg's asking why they chose that animal to represent the chocolate-flavoured cereal when Rice Krispies uses 'three white boys'."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8423841/Disgraced-ex-MP-Fiona-Onasanya-slams-Kelloggs-using-MONKEY-mascot-Coco-Pops.html
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: caller on June 16, 2020, 03:01:37 PM
The Lady must be joking !

"Coco Pops has been a much-loved breakfast staple for decades with one of the most recognisable mascots in TV advertising. But Coco the Monkey has come under suspicion from disgraced former Labour MP Fiona Onasanya, who has written to Kellogg's asking why they chose that animal to represent the chocolate-flavoured cereal when Rice Krispies uses 'three white boys'."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8423841/Disgraced-ex-MP-Fiona-Onasanya-slams-Kelloggs-using-MONKEY-mascot-Coco-Pops.html

Suggest you stop reading the Daily Mail
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on June 16, 2020, 04:32:33 PM
Caller the DM is awful with celebs/gossip but sometimes there are good features and excellent pics. I look at the DI, Indy, Grauniad etc. Poor old Kelloggs !
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: TJD on June 17, 2020, 12:44:16 PM
Once all the racists, homophobes, and white privilege Trump voters are purged from the Utopian society by the new American ISIS, the purity test standards will become increasingly strict, causing dissension in the ranks.  Survivors will polarize and fragment into clans and tribes, and then turn on each other.   

This is the nature of our species.   
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Alfie on June 18, 2020, 04:34:44 PM
A couple of cartoons for Roger.

(https://i.imgur.com/NiyEW8q.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/lVjhW9f.jpg)
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Hector on June 18, 2020, 05:23:27 PM
....and another
Title: Re: PC sins - take a knee and BLM/WLM/ALM
Post by: Roger on June 23, 2020, 01:20:05 PM
(Good cartoons BTW and tks  :) )

I understand 'take a knee' but I'm with Dominic Raab - except that I don't even kneel to God or for that matter, to Mrs Raab  ;)  So black/white/all lives matter IMO and it's OK whichever way you want to put it. So now we have clapping for the NHS before a game, taking the knee, then the game stops at some stage for applause for a time anniversary of something or other. And BLM on the back of my heroes shirts  ::)  It's football and please let us get on with it. IMO this sentimentalisation of everything started with Princess Diana's death and the theme is still running. It's bullocks.

Burnley FC and Players are apparently overcome with remorse over a WLM statement - what's on there ? Don't WHITE lives matter, the same as black and all ? PC is the new McCarthyism - (I'm right against USA Policing excesses nonetheless). Some interesting comments at the end of this Yahoo item https://uk.yahoo.com/sports/news/white-lives-matter-banner-flown-194746406.html

As Black protestors make their point around the World with fullest righteousness, I'm reminded that in the days of 'slaving', African Chiefs were often rounding up the victims for the Slavetraders and pocketing tidy sums. So let's be less shrill on the point. I don't believe I'm racist, just even handed, but would make the point that this BLM barrage will alienate many people and confirm the position of the far right. Let's calm down.

I guess there's some strong feelings around this topic ?
The rain has stopped so I'm off for a bike ride !
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Thaiwolf on June 24, 2020, 08:29:31 AM
Being a victim is the new norm for explaining failure Roger.

I'm afraid that I am tiring of groups such as bame and palastinians wingeing.

Just get over it and work to be successful....and if I hear the word empowerment one more time.......
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Thaiwolf on June 24, 2020, 08:33:25 AM
There is a real disconnect between politicians/media and ordinary folks. Every person I know is furious about the media's response to the "White lives matter" issue.
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Thaiwolf on June 24, 2020, 08:34:51 AM
My final comment, the world is going mad...and dangerously so in my mind!!
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Hector on June 24, 2020, 09:51:45 AM
I hope I've att this vid' correctly.  If so, I agree 100% with him as do the vast majority of those who comment on UK newspaper articles.
PS  Obviously I haven't.  Note says video is too  big.  Suggestions?
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Hector on June 24, 2020, 09:53:56 AM
PS to my last.  It was 4.87 MB
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on June 24, 2020, 02:39:02 PM
Hector - it sounds interesting. Can you give us a link instead ?

More on the Etihad incident . . .

"Jake Hepple posted an image of the plane on Facebook yesterday and wrote: 'I'd like to take this time to apologise... to absolutely f***ing nobody! It's now apparently racist to say White Lives Matter, the day after three white people got murdered in a park in Reading, but all we've seen on the TV is Black Lives Matter after George Floyd got murdered. What a mad world we live in."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8452581/No-crime-committed-White-Lives-Matter-banner-flown-Ethiad-stadium-police-say.html
Title: Re: PC sins - Dam decides ?
Post by: Roger on June 25, 2020, 07:49:01 AM
Hey Dam - beautifully argued  ;)  wish it was that simple M8  8)
Me - I'm leftish, BLM, WLM and ALM.

Freedom of expression is already eroded by this hysterical new 'McCarthyism". It's this extreme now - "The Burnley football fan behind the White Lives Matter banner above the Etihad stadium has been sacked from his job at an engineering firm. Jake Hepple, 24, was dismissed from his role as a welder at Lancashire-based Paradigm Precision this afternoon, with the company saying it 'did not condone or tolerate racism in any form'."

This is f*cking OUTRAGEOUS and I hope Mr Hepple takes Paradigm Precision to Industrial Tribunal AND makes them pay through the nose. What the hell has Mr Hepple's WLM view to do with his employment ? Admittedly we know where Mr Hepple was coming from with his gesture BUT his message is not illegal and neither is his membership of the EDL - such PC overdose is propagating racism IMO.

Hepple's earlier comment - "It's now apparently racist to say White Lives Matter, the day after three white people got murdered in a park in Reading". He has a point  ???

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8454627/Burnley-fan-White-Lives-Matter-banner-reveals-60-people-organised-stunt.html
Title: Re: PC sins - Bubba decides ?
Post by: Roger on June 25, 2020, 07:59:38 AM
Bubba quickly jumped on the racism bandwagon about a noose shaped door pull in a garage he'd only been in for a week - it's been there 'forever'. After apologising at first he's still trying to push the race message - stop digging Bubba. You are NOT helping.  ;)

"Wallace had thanked the FBI for investigating what was reported to be a noose hanging from his garage stall over the weekend, saying he's relieved, and admittedly embarrassed, that it turned out to be an innocent door pull rather than a racist symbol. Wallace, the only top NASCAR driver who is black, had recently successfully pushed the series to ban the Confederate flag at its venues, leaving fears that the noose had been placed by an angered fan to target the 26-year-old."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8457165/Bubba-Wallace-describes-24-hours-just-short-pure-hell.html
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: jivvy on June 25, 2020, 09:37:36 AM
Further to Jake Hepple's sacking....WTF !!!!

Burnley supporter Jake Hepple, 24, was dismissed from Lancashire-based Paradigm Precision on Wednesday.

According to Sky News sports correspondent Martha Kelner, his girlfriend has also had her employment terminated in relation to posts she made on social
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: caller on June 25, 2020, 12:56:03 PM
 The company might argue that he brought the company into disrepute if he used work time to organise what he did, or because of the media coverage, they do not wish to be associated with his views, I can see the lawyers debating that one. But if he was actually dismissed because of racism, he should sue them. They haven't a leg to stand on.
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on June 25, 2020, 01:31:29 PM
Hi Caller - If Hepple used worktime to organise it IMO that would have been a first step in the disciplinary process, a 'First Official Warning' but not warranting a dismissal. Agreed it's embarassing for the Company but that's not grounds.

 Jivvy I heard his GF had been suspended because of some 'racist' tweets . . .

BLM/WLM/ALM
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: caller on June 25, 2020, 10:57:11 PM
Hi Caller - If Hepple used worktime to organise it IMO that would have been a first step in the disciplinary process, a 'First Official Warning' but not warranting a dismissal.

When I worked in local government. It would be deemed gross misconduct and straight dismissal. I dealt with a few. Mainly to do with the circulation of innapropiate material and on occasion being sent to 3rd parties via council emails.
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on June 26, 2020, 09:07:04 AM
Caller, it may depend on whether Hepple has publicised 'Paradigm' himself but otherwise, unless Hepple used Paradigm's resources to organise/communicate this venture, he can surely sue for 'wrongful dismissal'. Even if Paradigm pay PILON Hepple can IMO, still sue for wrongful dismissal and probably win. It's not as if Hepple was Sales Director or PR Director - his private views within the Law are his own business.

Paradigm would have been better to just dissociate themselves quietly from the private views of just one Employee . . .

https://www.gov.uk/taking-disciplinary-action
https://www.peninsulagrouplimited.com/guides/summary-dismissal/

Title: Re: PC sins - Archbishops and Profs
Post by: Roger on June 27, 2020, 08:22:58 AM
The World is going quite MAD and so am I   >:(

 ""Asked if there had to be rethink on the white image of Jesus, Welby said: “Yes of course it does, this sense that God was white … You go into churches [around the world] and you don’t see a white Jesus. “You see a black Jesus, a Chinese Jesus, a Middle-Eastern Jesus – which is of course the most accurate – you see a Fijian Jesus.”" https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jun/26/church-of-england-justin-welby-white-jesus-black-lives-matter

Don't Prof's seem 10 a penny these days ? "Professor Priyamvada Gopal, a fellow of Churchill College, sparked a backlash after she posted the tweet saying: “I’ll say it again. White Lives Don’t Matter. As white lives.”" Now I'm sure she means something 'deeper' by that in which case, she should have explained further. One cannot possibly approve of this tweet in reply “Why would you want to abolish whiteness anyway, we’ve given you everything you own, without us you’d still be chasing Bush meat with a blowpipe.” Ouch ! That's a classic but wholly deplorable of course. https://uk.yahoo.com/news/cambridge-professor-white-lives-twitter-110355066.html
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on July 04, 2020, 10:40:47 AM
No surprise - Prof. David Starkey in trouble . . .

Speaking via video link from his home, the historian said "'the only reason that these young black protestors are here' is 'because of slavery'.  He added: 'Slavery was not genocide, otherwise there wouldn't be so many damn blacks in Africa or in Britain, would there? An awful lot of them survived'."

In the normal sense of the word, slavery was not genocide was it ? The purpose was not to kill but to use. Of course many died and slavery was totally evil, but if the Prof. hadn't said 'damn' here, would've been better   ::)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8487043/Dr-David-Starkey-sacked-professor-role-Canterbury-quits-fellowship-Cambridge.html   
Title: Re: PC sins - Twitter mob decides ?
Post by: Roger on July 07, 2020, 10:02:04 AM
Twitter driven McCarthyism finds many targets these days - J K Rowling and 'trans' comment. IMO an excellent article :-

". . . we have been treated to the unedifying spectacle of the writer J K Rowling being accused of wanting to hurt trans people and, in the last couple of days, of “harmfully” criticising the over-use of opposite-sex hormones by making a parallel with the over-prescription of anti-depressants. I, and many others I’m sure, happen to agree with Rowling – non-invasive ways (talking, getting fit, acceptance) of addressing unhappiness of body and mind are always preferable to medicalisation, not least because the side-effects of prescription drugs are often unknown. But whether you agree with Rowling or not is not the point. She has, by any understanding of the principle of charity, been painfully clear and careful in the way she has outlined her thoughts. She gave reasons. A discussion should be possible." and . .

 . . . "Bravery is in short supply, and many people have a lot to lose: but how much more we will have lost when we can all no longer think, and feel, at all."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/books/news/jk-rowlings-treatment-grim-sign-twitter-mobs-have-poisoned-cultural/
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Thaiwolf on July 14, 2020, 07:23:54 AM
Wolverhampton Wanderers have been urged to drop their "Wolves" nickname after a strong response from the sheep lobby citing continual and historical violence against and murder of members  their species.
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on July 14, 2020, 10:22:11 AM
That's right TW -  an age old nickname is for the chop  ;)  A hefty fine from the EPL is certain. But I understand that after 56 seasons  'Wandering' around Tiers 2, 3 and 4, being called the 'Wanderers' is thought to be acceptable for the future.

My own TUFC are also falling foul of this long overdue purge - no longer to be known as the 'Gulls' apparently, due to the shocking predominance of whites among that population. TUFC are also known as the 'Yellows', (as used in the mellifluous 'Come on you Yellows' by me and 3 others), but quite rightly, there is also a wish not to offend our Chinese friends so, we are, at TUFC, quite at a loss   :-[  But WE are used to losing   :'( 
Title: Re: PC's sins
Post by: Roger on July 26, 2020, 10:50:32 AM
In this case Police Constables in the PC UK.

It seems that the UK Police are often rendered impotent by regulation, procedure and human rights these days. Constantly reading that it might take a week for them to visit a crime scene after even a serious robbery, rapes and sexual assaults allegations not being pursued etc. etc., it seems that it is below their paygrade to tackle CV-19 matters too.

Seeing reports that there were 500 illegal raves in the UK last weekend, football celebrations, riots in Brixton but the Police apparently, often find they can't intervene. Why's that ? Now the Police claim they can't help to enforce mandatory wearing of face masks. What has happened - has a sub-culture taken over in Britain?

Surely a PC can occasionally stand at the door of a shop to make the point or at least respond to beleagured shop staff seeking help.

As for those who object to wearing a mask - the UK is fighting a pandemic and if that's the advice, follow it in good nature please, for the benefit of your Country.  8)
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on August 25, 2020, 07:52:07 AM
Us Brits love this old anthem but really, some of the words seem more than a bit silly in today's World. The question is, has the BBC banned 'Hope and Glory' because of PC concerns or because of the very valid matter of NOT exhaling CV-19 virus in glorious bellows ?

Here's the article - ( + great cartoon on the DT front page atm https://www.telegraph.co.uk/ )

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/08/24/axeing-rule-britannia-bbc-proms-would-erase-history-culture/
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: jivvy on August 25, 2020, 10:10:43 PM
Well said Boris!!!!!!!
Boris Johnson has accused the BBC of “wetness” for removing the lyrics of Rule, Britannia! at the Last Night of the Proms.

The prime minister criticised the corporation for its decision to have the anthem, along with Land Of Hope And Glory, performed without its words.

The move comes in the face of criticism that the traditional anthems’ lyrics contain references to colonialism and slavery.

On Tuesday, Johnson said: "I think it's time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, about our traditions and about our culture.
"And we stop this general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.”

In an interview during a visit to a shipyard in Devon, Johnson said: “They're trying to restrain me from saying this.”

He added: "I wanted to get that off my chest".
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on August 26, 2020, 07:56:57 AM
Good post Jivvy - on 'The World Tonight, (R4), the BBC were trying to escape responsibility for this 'wokeness' by pretending it was fake news, as there was to be NO audience in the Royal Albert Hall anyway. That's trite and dishonest of the BBC   ::)

There's nothing to stop a Vocalist singing for the broadcast is there?  ::)

Except the BBC's 'wokeness'. Shameful - Boris is right    ;)
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on October 13, 2020, 09:25:12 PM
Just a link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8834021/BAME-people-represented-TV-new-research-suggests.html
Title: Re: PC and 'Woke' sins - J K Rowling / Suzanne Moore
Post by: Roger on November 26, 2020, 07:24:46 AM
I guess we all noticed the ruthless demonisation of the admirable J K Rowling and here's another example of the ruling PC, 'Wokeness', bullying thrust by which 'freedom of speech' is being eroded by pressure groups - (BLM and Black Postboxes another manifestation). I hardly know of this journalist but her story is disturbing - hundreds of Guardian colleagues signed a letter in protest at her attempt to discuss 'trans' matters . . . .

"Suzanne Moore is one of the most famous columnists at the Guardian newspaper — or at least she was until she finally left last week, accused by colleagues of being a ‘transphobe’. For the first time, she talks about her experience to Freddie Sayers — what it felt like to be rounded on how she felt couldn’t stay. It’s a sobering story of an attempt to shut down freedom of speech at one of the world’s biggest newspapers."

A long and sometimes rambling insight to her travails . . https://youtu.be/wSVd36xEplY

Source : https://unherd.com/thepost/suzanne-moore-i-felt-absolutely-betrayed/
Title: Re: PC and 'Woke' sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on November 29, 2020, 10:11:57 AM
 Pathetic BBC  >:(   Folks are easily offended these days - particularly when it suits an agenda . .

 "Steve Thompson, 65, used the phrase 'handbags' to describe a scuffle in a match
    The incident occurred during Lincoln's goalless draw last week at Accrington
    The BBC say the 'handbags' comment 'did not meet the standards we expect'
    Thompson is said to be 'devastated' about a decision which has left fans shocked
"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-8995845/Steve-Thompson-dropped-BBC-year-referring-tussle-handbags.html
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Roger on December 06, 2020, 09:29:23 AM
Millwall Fans booing some Players 'taking the knee' at kick off, (after the Ref has whistled to start the game).

https://twitter.com/i/status/1335244473069088774

Maybe I wouldn't have booed but FWIW I disapprove 100%. Time to move on from this IMO.

All Lives Matter.
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Thaiwolf on December 06, 2020, 10:06:50 AM
Only time will tell but I believe that the Black Lives Matter movement will cause and incite massive racial tension in the coming months and years ahead. Time to knock it on the head in my opinion - including taking a knee - we have all heard the issues and will try to improve our actions.
Title: Re: PC sins - John Barnes decides
Post by: Roger on December 10, 2020, 02:31:02 PM
'Black' people are black, 'coloured' people are coloured - well said John Barnes and well done for a refreshing and realistic comment :-

"Barnes, himself a victim of shocking ­racist abuse while a player and now a prominent commentator on discrimination within society, responded to the outcry over the incident by posting images of the Basaksehir coaching staff on ­Twitter and writing: “Its [sic] NOT racist to describe the offender as the black one! We are telling people to call us black … he doesn’t know his name, there are 6/7 coaches standing together all Turkish … 1 is to be sent off, the ref says which one THE BLACK ONE what else can he say to let the ref know? Why can’t you describe a black man as being a black man?

Barnes stood by his remarks, even after being challenged over whether a white coach would be described in similar terms. His view was echoed by Benfica manager Jorge Jesus, who also branded ­racism storms “very fashionable” . . . . "

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/12/09/not-racist-describe-someone-black-says-john-barnes/
Title: Re: PC sins - the FA decides ?
Post by: Roger on January 01, 2021, 12:58:06 PM
According to dictionary.com, 'Negrito' is 'a member of any of various Indigenous peoples of Africa, the Philippines, the Malay Peninsula, the Andaman Islands, and southern India'. Cavani reportedly knew it as 'little black friend'. How is that abusive ? Originally I wondered if Negrito was a synonym for Nigger, (which I would think abusive).

"Edinson Cavani has been hit with a three-match ban and £100,000 fine after the Manchester United striker used the word 'negrito' in a social media post. Cavani sent the message to a friend after his match-winning performance against Southampton last month, but the FA decided it was discriminatory in nature and charged him with misconduct."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-9102391/Man-United-striker-Edinson-Cavani-handed-three-match-ban-FA.html
Title: Re: PC sins - the FA decides ?
Post by: Roger on January 02, 2021, 05:44:32 AM
Apparently Anders Herrera's comment on the Cavani matter is, 'the World has gone to sh*t'. More from Gary Lineker and this from Piers Morgan - "Cavani has been banned for using a term to a friend that's considered inoffensive in his own country. No racist intent, no offence felt by recipient. Dumb overreaction by the FA. A quiet word about language sensitivities would have sufficed".

https://www.unitedinfocus.com/news/gary-lineker-praises-manchester-united-and-edinson-cavanis-response-to-ban/
Title: Re: PC sins - BBC decides ?
Post by: Roger on January 02, 2021, 07:23:07 AM
"Viewers slam BBC for 'forcing politics' into 'woke' New Year's Eve light display".

"The inclusion of a Black Lives Matter fist, the EU colours and a turtle with Africa on its shell were ridiculed by some social media users who called the show disgraceful". Some Brits weren't too happy about the New Year's Eve light display above London. The BBC has been blasted by angry viewers who say the broadcaster was "forcing politics" into its New Year's Eve light show. With London's traditional fireworks display called off due to the coronavirus pandemic, Brits were forced to ring in 2021 watching the display from home. Hundreds of programmed drones formed different shapes in the night sky to illustrate the tumultuous events of 2020.

But some were unhappy with the things the BBC, which produced the show, chose to emphasise. The opening lights on the Thames bridges were blue and yellow, the colours of the European Union which the UK has just formally split from. A bird above the O2 Arena, symbolising the emergency NHS Nightingale hospitals hastily built to grapple with Covid-19 cases, also appeared in blue and yellow.

A clenched fist symbolising Black Lives Matter proved especially divisive among social media users, some of whom felt the political movement had no place in a national year-end display. The fist appeared while spoken-word artist George the Poet read an extract of his poem Coronavirus: The Power of Collaboration."The future holds unexposed danger, but no stress," he read. "Humankind is no stranger to progress. And as we have proven, when we collaborate, progress follows fast."

Also included was a turtle with the shape of Africa on its shell, which materialised while Sir David Attenborough said: "Happy New Year. Our planet is unique. A living world of diversity and wonder. It's also fragile. "With a new year comes the opportunity for change. And if we act, in 2021 we can make a world of difference. "Together, we can turn things around. Together, we can restore our fragile home and make it a happy new year for all the inhabitants of Planet Earth."

The show was signed off by Mayor Sadiq Khan, who proudly tweeted: "Our New Year's Eve show just sent a loud, proud message to the world: London stands together against racism - tonight and always."

But some weren't so pleased by the show, with one Twitter user saying: "Can't believe the London firework display. BLM, all about change, new ways... never seen so much politicized bulls***." Another posted: "Anyone else disgusted by the Woke BLM XR NHS overt political broadcast commentary over London New Year fireworks on the BBC??" Others called the display "disgraceful" and "disgusting"."Unfortunately, the London firework show, usually one of the best went too political. In fact, it made me feel creepy. It felt like an indoctrination," one said.

Some Twitter users were even convinced the show was designed to promote an "anti-white" or "black supremacist" agenda, a far-fetched claim for which there is little evidence. However many others seemed to enjoy the show, saying it made them emotional and proud to be British, particularly the tribute to the NHS which saw the logo appear in a huge heart.

The appearance of an enormous Captain Tom Moore in the sky was also the target of much ridicule. "Just a fundamentally sordid country," one Twitter user remarked at the centenarian's role in the show. "Is England ok," another asked
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https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/viewers-slam-bbc-forcing-politics-23247252
Title: Re: PC sins - BBC decides ?
Post by: Roger on January 05, 2021, 03:24:38 PM
BBC feeding on it's own nonsense . . . .

"The BBC has added a warning of 'discriminatory language' to the 1971 movie of Dad's Army. The film, a feature-length version of the classic TV sitcom, is currently streaming on iPlayer, with the listing of the movie warning that it 'contains discriminatory language which some may find offensive'. Particular offence comes from a reference to the French as 'frogs' during a training exercise, while Clive Dunn's Lance-Corporal Jones refers to soldiers he fought in Sudan as 'fuzzy wuzzies'."

https://uk.yahoo.com/movies/bbc-discriminatory-language-warning-dads-army-movie-123115951.html
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: Hector on January 13, 2021, 01:04:30 PM
And so it continues.......
"Coon" Cheese is to be rebranded in Australia to "Cheer" after a campaign by activists against the word's racist connotations. The cheese got its original name from American pioneering cheese maker Edward William Coon who patented a ripening process in the 1920s. 
"Redskins" and "Chicos" lollies will be changed to "Red Ripper" and "Cheekies", saying the original names were now "out of step" with the company's (Nestle)values.
"Darlie" toothpaste was first introduced under the name “Darkie” and featured the logo of a smiling white man in blackface.  In 1989 the company (Colgate) changed the brand name from “Darkie” to “Darlie” under the pressure of some shareholders and US church groups and redesigned the logo to feature a racially ambiguous man in a top hat and tuxedo.
Title: Re: PC sins - who decides ?
Post by: caller on January 14, 2021, 12:57:38 PM
And so it continues.......
"Coon" Cheese is to be rebranded in Australia to "Cheer" after a campaign by activists against the word's racist connotations. The cheese got its original name from American pioneering cheese maker Edward William Coon who patented a ripening process in the 1920s. 
"Redskins" and "Chicos" lollies will be changed to "Red Ripper" and "Cheekies", saying the original names were now "out of step" with the company's (Nestle)values.
"Darlie" toothpaste was first introduced under the name “Darkie” and featured the logo of a smiling white man in blackface.  In 1989 the company (Colgate) changed the brand name from “Darkie” to “Darlie” under the pressure of some shareholders and US church groups and redesigned the logo to feature a racially ambiguous man in a top hat and tuxedo.

Poor Mr Coon!

I looked up Chico as I didn't know what it was meant to represent as all I can find is a slang name for a Spanish boy or kid. Do the Aussies use the term for Chinese?

I agree about changing the name of the toothpaste, I was truly taken aback when I frst saw that, in the same was I was when In Oz and watching Australia v Pakistan on aussie TV and the Pakistan team being referred to all the time as 'the pakistanis' by the commentators.