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Title: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on July 13, 2018, 12:38:03 AM
I see Antonio Conte has been fired as Chelsea's Manager - I guess they have secured a replacement. Now the World Cup is over ??? I'm eagerly awaiting the new season  :D
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: dereklev on July 13, 2018, 07:03:48 AM
Conte's stats and they want to sack him :o :o :o

Conte's mark of 30 league wins in the 2016-17 campaign was a record until Manchester City produced 32 in 2017-18

His league win percentage of 67.1% is better than Sir Alex Ferguson's 65.2% and only bettered by Pep Guardiola's 72.8% in the Premier League

In all he won 69 and drew 20 of his 106 games in charge of the club

He has won four league titles and a domestic cup in his last five seasons as a club manager

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44811843 (https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/44811843)
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on July 15, 2018, 01:52:44 AM
A good start to the pre-season for Everton  ::)

A 0-22 win away from home  :o

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44835279
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: dereklev on July 15, 2018, 05:06:05 AM
A good start to the pre-season for Everton  ::)

A 0-22 win away from home  :o

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44835279

Highway Star will be very happy with that result ;D
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on August 29, 2018, 12:47:19 PM
The vision of Paul Pogba proudly leading out his team for the 1st game of the season sticks in my mind rather - hand in hand with a small girl on that hallowed turf - he gathers his sputum and managed a giant spit half way to the centre - lovely. (Why do footballers spit so much - there's no athletic need is there so is it just a macho or contempt thing  ???)

Sticking with Man Utd - I watched the game against Spurs last night. I see they had 57% possession and 23 shots to lose 0-3. I thought the teams looked well matched although it was a very scrappy game - Man Utd's players are not enjoying themselves but Luke Shaw played really well I thought.

Derek I agree Conte was a little unlucky to lose his job at Chelsea  - but they've started well with 3 wins in a row.

Teess Sunderland look to be doing OK and I hope they get an auto promotion. You may remember Gary Owers, 320 games and 25 goals for Sunderland. The unfortunate fellow is managing TUFC in National South and he is struggling. He comes over as 'dower Owers' and is getting attacked by the Fans - disgracefully someone threw tea at him on Saturday. Seems a decent Guy with a great pedigree and I hope he can turn it around quick  ;)

The other game I saw was Wolves v Man City - good luck to Wolves who fought like tigers and should be ok in the EPL this year ? TW ?
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Thaiwolf on August 30, 2018, 07:48:52 AM
Hi Roger,
 My rather leftfield prediction that Wolves would beat Man City was based on two things. Wolves, despite their loss, played Leicester City off the park on the previous weekend and secondly they held Man City to a goalless draw in last season’s League Cup.

Concerning Wolves this season, they must forget all the hype and keep their feet on the ground. Survival should be their first target and that is 100% certain in my opinion.

 I am tempering my expectations but based on their first three performances and despite only gaining two points, a top ten finish could be possible. NES has put together a strong squad and I rather like their cavalier approach to their play.

With the continued support from Chinese benefactors Fosun International , the club could be the next Chelsea or Man City. A successful Wolves could, if the Stadium is expanded, attract 50 000 plus crowds as seen in the past. I myself have been present in 50 000 crowds at the “old Molineux” in the 60s and 70s.

I was brought up with stories of Wright, Slater and Clamp (no not a local solicitors but the Wolves midfield of the 50s), the famous long ball days of Jimmie Mullin and Johnnie Hancocks and my grandfather waxing lyrical about the defeat of Honved with media proclaiming Wolves to be the “best team in the world”……..anyway I digress…….it’s great to be back!!!
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on August 30, 2018, 11:19:03 AM
Hi TW. I remember those solicitors AND Terry Wharton, Alan Hinton, Derek Dougan, Ron Flowers, Peter Broadbent etc etc !

I'd forgotten that you had Ernie Hunt at one time - I watched him playing at Swindon Town as a teenager with Mike Summerbee, Bobby Woodruff (another of yours - 18 goals in 63 games from midfield) and later the incomparable Don Rogers  ;D ;D ;D
(I've still got those autographs somewhere).

MOVING ON - remember Clint Dempsey ? Fulham, Spurs and the USA ?
He's retired. Really worth a look at the clip in this Guardian link.

Amazing goal against Juventus, yes Juventus !!

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/aug/29/clint-dempsey-retires-seattle-sounders-fulham-usa-soccer
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Thaiwolf on September 17, 2018, 08:35:08 AM
Is it just me or were Wolves absolutely superb against Burnley. Put your money on Wolvesto  beat Man. United next week.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on September 17, 2018, 09:00:05 AM
Just you M8  ;) No seriously - Wolves are doing well atm  ;D
I hope it continues.

As for beating Man Utd - you'll have no chance in Teess EPL table if you keep tipping Wolves like that . . . (the humble pie is ready if needed).  ATB
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on September 23, 2018, 05:34:36 PM
TW - well done Wolves - (I got the draw)  ;)
You must be chuffed - Wolves are looking good and all the pundits seem to think they'll be OK  ;D

Teess - how do you feel about your lot ? It's early days but the auto promo places are in sight - Sunderland just 4 points off the top. How do you feel about the Squad now ?

Barnsley v Burton called off after an Air Ambulance had to remove someone who'd had a heart attack ? Not sure about that - what if it was Old Trafford and 70,000 there ? ATB to the poor Chap of course, but, over reaction ?

Torquay have signed an excellent new Manager - the experienced Gary Johnson. A 0-7 F.A.Cup win against Lymington in the bag and leaders Woking up next in the League ! Torquay must finish as Champs - as the only full time pro team in NLS, nothing else will do. Gary J has good contacts at Bristol City and we have some nice loanees already - soon we'll be catching up the Black Cats LOL.

I see Swindon Supermarine also got a 7-0 win in the F.A.Cup - the old 'Vickers Armstrong Supermarine' Football team I played for ! But they've come on a bit since I was banging in a few for the Reserves !

Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on September 23, 2018, 06:49:42 PM
Sunderland havd an almost completely new team, only Lee Cattermole remains apart from the youngsters. 2 of the expensive acquisitions, Djilobodji (£8m) and N'Dong (£13m) were awol at start of season. Djilobodji turned up late and unfit so they sacked him, N'Dong now says he wil return on reduced wages but it remains to be seen if the club want him. The team should improve through the season as they get used to each other and the new manager so I am hopeful of automatic promotion. Some fans ars already talking of a Wear/Tyne derby next season.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on October 13, 2018, 03:35:20 PM
So far no EPL team looks like running away with it - should be a brilliant chase this season - MCFC, CFC and L'Pool neck and neck having dropped only 4 points in the first 8 games !
Three Managers from mainland EU shining - Guardiola as expected with Sarri and Klopp having transformed their teams into genuine challengers, (Sarri rather quickly).

What of Arsenal - signs of life under Unai Emery ? They certainly squashed Fulham last week and their 3rd goal - the result of great skills and teamwork  :)

The great John Terry retires from playing and joins beleagured Aston Villa as Asst. Manager.

The signing of Jermaine Defoe on a 3 year contract does not seem to be working out for Eddie Howe at Bournemouth - not yet half way through at FAT wages, after 24 appearances and 4 goals last year, just 4 appearances and no goals this season ?

The media concentrate on Mourinho's fate at MUFC - he doesn't help himself - saw him throwing water from his bottle at the camera on the way out and mouthing stuff after the game. Man Utd could do better.

Teess - S'land need auto promo - too many fluke results in the play offs. Good luck !
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on October 22, 2018, 01:04:30 PM
I expect most of us watched Chelsea v Man Utd - I enjoyed it. Martial did well. I'm not a CFC fan but was glad when they grabbed the draw.

Mourinho with his usual 'rat in a corner' performance may be facing a touchline ban - this makes me think - why not put ALL the coaches in the stand with physios only on the bench ? Hard to believe that screaming away in a packed stadium from the touchline achieves anything. Watching Klopp freaking out strengthens the idea - he'll do himself an injury  :(

FGS the Players are hard bitten Professionals - if they don't know what to do after many years of playing and the last week's training - it's bizarre to think the Manager can make a difference with a tantrum from 70 metres away. Put 'em ALL in the stands and dispense with the 'Fourth Official' - and what a stupid role that is - listening to ranting and raving Managers  :o

To the stands you lot !

Saw Liverpool last night - Huddersfield did very well and were a bit unlucky at times. L'pool don't look great and I thought Salah, for all the waffle about him, played the best of the forwards. But they missed Robert Firminho and Mane IMO. Milner looks tired. Poor performance in contrast to Man City in rampant mood.

If Arsenal beat Leicester tonight they'll go above Spurs and IF they score 4, above Chelsea into 3rd. Signs of life there !

Wayne Rooney is 'on fire' in the USA - good for him.

For years TUFC have lost in the 1st round proper of the FA Cup - usually squashed by a minnow from the lower echelons they now inhabit themselves !  Things are looking up - after a few wins they elevate to the Ist Round Proper - and like very other minnow - they are hoping to be drawn - AWAY TO SUNDERLAND - which must be the best supported Club in this draw ?

So watch out Teess - prepare for a thrashing LOL
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on November 14, 2018, 11:05:08 AM
Richard Scudamore who has been Premier League Boss for 19 years at a package reaching £2.5 million is retiring shortly. The Chairman of Chelsea, Bruce Buck, has proposed that the 20 EPL Clubs all contribute £250K to for a £5 million leaving bonanza for Scudamore >:(   >:(

Curse his boots I say ! What a ridiculous idea and that anyone could think such a person should receive such a bonus, (never mind the money that comes out of fan's pockets), illustrates the quite wicked level of Executive's remuneration that seems to be the norm these days.

WHEN the revolution comes, Mr Buck should be first to the guillotine  ;)

(To be followed shortly after by Gordon Taylor of the PFA).
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on November 15, 2018, 07:32:10 PM
FFS how many Football Supporters earn a £ million in 20 years ?
Scudamore has been paid more than that EACH year for many years.

Thankfully - voices of sense can be heard - even these days !

''The Football Supporters’ Federation (FSF) has urged clubs to reject a plan to give the outgoing Premier League executive chairman, Richard Scudamore, a £5m leaving present.''
and . . . .
''Now it appears clubs can stick their hands down the back of the sofa and find £250,000 at a moment’s notice. Fans strongly oppose the ‘golden handshake’ and we urge clubs not to make a decision which is hugely unpopular with supporters.''

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/nov/15/premier-league-5m-richard-scudamore-gift
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on November 15, 2018, 07:44:05 PM
Only 4 PL clubs are committed to pay all employees the living wage so finding money for an unnecessary £5m leaving gift  to a multi millionaire would be shoddy work indeed.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on November 16, 2018, 08:28:56 AM
Well said Teess.
It looks now as if we might get a revolution - then we can sort these biggers out  ;)
Good and proper !

Yet another 'International Break' disrupting the more important football. I see FIFA are planning a league basis for the 'World Club Championship' too. I'm already knackered and just can't play all these games even though we have a big squad - so BACK OFF FIFA !

I see Fulham dumped poor Jokanovic after he had succeeded in getting the promo to the EPL - against all odds  :(  But tinker man Ranieri is a good replacement of course. I saw the first half of Liverpool v Fulham and thought Fulham did well enough.

A good 3-0 win for England against the USA who are no pushover these days. Rooney's tribute appearance seems to have gone well but I remember, despite his goals, England never achieved much in Rooney's era.  :'(  I'm more optimistic about England under Saint Southgate than I was during the World Cup - he seems to be putting something together now and isn't locked into the big reputations - plenty of youngsters getting a chance. Go for it !

Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on November 17, 2018, 08:35:13 PM
When the revolution comes - and it ain't gonna be long by the look of it . . .

One of the first for the chop is Mr Taylor - Football Administration is still a shambles - wherever you look ! Mr T has done 40 years now !

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/nov/17/gordon-taylor-football-fattest-cat-pfa
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on November 20, 2018, 08:22:23 AM
I hope that when the PFA get rid of this toad Taylor and appoint a new CEO - a maximum salary of £500K should be allocated to the CEO role. That will allow the PFA to increase it's support for Ex-Pro's in distress, by some 500% !! Some shocking stuff behind the glitter of the beautiful game :-

''Research conducted in 2013 by the organisation XPro suggested that as many as 60% of former players, who earned huge salaries in their Premier League days, were declaring bankruptcy within five years of retiring.''

and . . .

''The extent of financial problems suffered by players also underlies the resentment felt by many over the £2.29m annual salary earned by Gordon Taylor, the players’ union’s chief executive, which contrasts with a total of £500,000 the PFA distributed in benevolent grants last year.''

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/nov/19/more-than-500-footballers-may-have-lost-up-to-1bn-due-to-bad-advice
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on November 21, 2018, 06:49:11 AM
A step forward ?

''The Football Association will seek to cut the number of foreign players permitted in Premier League squads, even if the United Kingdom does not leave the European Union. The FA has drawn up proposals to deal with Brexit under which the allowance of non-homegrown players in the 25-man squads would be reduced from 17 to 13, and will pursue that course regardless.''

Very good news IMHO but I'd like to see the limit as 10 - and what about signed in and loaned out Players, not in the EPL squad   ::)

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/nov/20/fa-cut-overseas-players-regardless-brexit
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on November 27, 2018, 10:28:11 AM
After the latest round of fixtures it is apparent a few clubs have problems,
Southampton are in trouble Hughes must be favourite in the sack race,
Cardiff are short on quality and will struggle,
Ranieri will improve Fulham,
Newcastle will be OK as long as Benitez stays,
Palace cant score,
Neither can Man Utd,
City cant stop scoring,
Neither can Liverpool.
Just noticed that Champions league coverage has disappeared from Truevision screens.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on November 28, 2018, 07:37:52 PM
Teess - good post.

A quick look at Mourinho's latest bit of out of order stuff :-

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46366802    >:(   :o

quite a contrast with one of Football's Gentlemen :-

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46369935    :)    :)
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on December 01, 2018, 05:48:15 AM
The beautiful game   >:(   and the Barry Bennell / Dario Gradi saga . . .

''Gradi, then the first-team manager, had modified his own house to accommodate boys. Indeed, he needed a people carrier to ferry them all around and, although this is far from an easy subject to address, it has been made clear to the people leading this case why so much innuendo and suspicion has followed him throughout his professional life. “You’d always see him with his arm around a blond boy,” one former Crewe academy player has told the inquiry. “He used to prefer blond boys. He had dressing gowns with the [boys’] initials on. He had a [swimming] pool that was built so it was a certain level for young boys to play in.”
Gradi used to take boys on holidays
. . . .''

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/nov/25/dario-gradi-barry-bennell-crewe-alexandra-football-abuse-scandal
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Thaiwolf on December 02, 2018, 06:53:31 AM
Wolves have fallen to pieces. - one point in the last 6 games. If this form continues they will be relegated!!

The reality is that they were not as good as folks thought after 8 games and they are not as bad as present form suggests.

My feeling is that the Ruben Neves speculation has upset the "Wolves are a pack" dressing room attitude. Neves has gone missing in recent matches. He should be sold for 65 million in January and the money invested in a couple of decent midfielders who want to play for the team and a striker.

My thoughts have always been that avoiding the drop this season should be the aim. This aim will be achieved.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on December 02, 2018, 07:14:28 AM
More important than that TW is that I had Wolves down for a win ! I was expecting some sort of a bounce back with the quality Wolves have. Whilst it's almost a foregone who will win the EPL this year, there'll be some hi-jinks at the bottom ! GL
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on December 03, 2018, 04:31:46 PM
After the latest round of fixtures it is apparent a few clubs have problems,
Southampton are in trouble Hughes must be favourite in the sack race

And now he's gone. Presumably because he failed to beat a distinctly average Man Utd team.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on December 04, 2018, 08:04:09 AM
Earlier in this thread . . .

''The FA has drawn up proposals to deal with Brexit under which the allowance of non-homegrown players in the 25-man squads would be reduced from 17 to 13, and will pursue that course regardless.''

Is that enough ? Gareth Southgate with some pertinent comment :-

''The shortage of homegrown players in the Premier League, which hit record lows this past weekend, is “incredible” and “a conundrum we have to solve” according to the England manager, Gareth Southgate. In the 14th round of fixtures which took place this weekend only 54 players eligible to play for England started in the top flight. This was down from the previous week, which itself had been a record low.''

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/dec/03/gareth-southgate-condemns-shortage-england-players-premier-league
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on December 17, 2018, 12:37:28 PM
Some decent games this weekend. Chelsea nearly turning a comprehensive victory into a draw after easing off at Brighton. The game was marred by the co-commentator gary birtles spouting nonsense throughout. Manchester united were well beaten at Liverpool and look a very average team these days while City comfortably saw off Everton. Ranieri has a big job on his hands at Fulham while Hasenhuttl has started well at Southampton.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on December 17, 2018, 01:55:50 PM
On another matter, does anyone know if the fa cup will be televised on thai tv? Or are we facing a football free weekend.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: dereklev on December 17, 2018, 03:02:03 PM
On another matter, does anyone know if the fa cup will be televised on thai tv? Or are we facing a football free weekend.

I think it is on Thai channel 7.

They've shown it in the past.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on December 17, 2018, 03:58:46 PM
Hi Teess. Hassenhuttl has an interesting backgound - a good start and I was happy to see old favourites, Nathan Redmond, Shane Long, Charlie Austin and Danny Ings in the action. I hope it goes well for Southampton after bursting Arsenal's bubble.

I see Sunderland will be in place for auto promo if they can win games in hand - must go up this year. What a crowd - 29000 to watch Bristol Rovers. Amazing.

In a different World, NL(S) leaders TUFC went to NL Boreham Wood in the FA Trophy, watched by a crowd of 218 of whom more than 100 were TUFC supporters - (last TUFC home game 2500+). BH a 'senior' side with 10% of the TUFC crowd. Up to TUFC to get that right and get back to where they belong . . .

Liverpool look like giving Man City a run for their money for the EPL as Salah gets back to his best.                 

Title: Man Utd say bye bye Jose !
Post by: Roger on December 18, 2018, 03:56:17 PM
The EPL can live without him . . .

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/12/18/jose-mourinho-sacked-manchester-united-manager-departs-clubs/

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/jose-mourinho-sacked-manchester-united-094955270.html
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on December 18, 2018, 04:12:29 PM
He doesn't seem so special any more. Maybe he is not the same without Rui Faria. I expect Jose will get by OK with his multi million pay off but I dont see getting another position soon. I wonder if utd have someone lined up to take his place, Benitez perhaps?
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on December 18, 2018, 06:57:41 PM
''It is understood Michael Carrick will look after affairs before the club appoint an external candidate in the next 24 to 48 hours to take charge on a caretaker basis for the rest of the season.

A statement from the club said: "Manchester United announces that manager Jose Mourinho has left the club with immediate effect. The club would like to thank Jose for his work during his time at Manchester United and to wish him success in the future. "A new caretaker manager will be appointed until the end of the current season, while the club conducts a thorough recruitment process for a new, full-time manager
.''

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/12/18/jose-mourinho-sacked-manchester-united-manager-departs-clubs/
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: TheOddViking on December 21, 2018, 03:17:48 AM
Didn't know Paul Pogba had a humorous sense, but according to the Independent he sure has. His first comment to Mourinho's sacking should have been

"He fucked with the wrong baller!"
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on December 21, 2018, 04:14:06 AM
Foolhardy from Pogba - he has his own problems.
IMO - better for him to keep quiet and enjoy the moment  ::)
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on December 21, 2018, 12:13:21 PM
So that's Arsenal, Chelsea and Man Utd have changed Managers recently  :-\
Man City, Liverpool and Spurs seem happy with their Guys  ;)

In the DT, an article about the disgraceful aggression vented at Referees in the EPL. Jamie Vardy in this particularly ugly assault should IMO have been given a red card.

''The comparative scale of English football’s culture of referee abuse is laid bare by new research showing that match officials in France and Holland are more than seven times less likely to endure frequent verbal abuse. In what is the biggest study of its sort - and the first that allows direct comparisons across countries - researchers discovered a series of common issues in Europe, but stark differences in the regularity of abuse compared to their previous findings in England.''

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/12/20/english-football-officials-seven-times-likely-verbally-abused/



Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on December 21, 2018, 01:00:08 PM
Well he has to 'av a go doesn't he ? Wishing Ole Gunnar ATB but frankly, after his dismal efforts as Manager at Cardiff City a few years ago, the portents are not good  :-\

''The new Manchester United caretaker manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer promised his under-performing players that he would not judge them on their stuttering season so far and that all of them would be given a fresh chance to prove anew that they belonged at the club.

In his first interview since being appointed on Tuesday the Norwegian, a major fan favourite at Old Trafford, declared that he had ‘come home’ to United. In what was an upbeat interview Solskjaer made much of emphasising the quality of his squad and making clear that whatever had happened under Jose Mourinho would now be forgotten
.''

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/12/20/manchester-united-caretaker-manager-ole-gunnar-solskjaer-ready/
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on December 21, 2018, 01:48:09 PM
I expect we will see a bit more of Pogba and Mata and a bit less of Fellaini and Young.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on December 27, 2018, 10:28:09 AM
Man City lose 2 games in 4 days while Utd score 8 in their 2 games. Spurs outdo that by scoring 11 and move up to 2nd. Newcastle settle for a defeat at Liverpool before kick off by fielding a weakened team. Meanwhile the 3rd largest crowd of the day was in league 1 at the Stadium of Light where over 46,000 watched Sunderland win. This was more than Spurs managed at Wembley.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on December 27, 2018, 11:47:28 AM
Teess - yes 46,000 - that's stunning - an all-time record at the 3rd level.
Sunderland MUST get one of the auto places and winning those 2 games in hand will get them up there. Wish you luck  :)

Well done to OGS - he has had 2 'easy' games but at least he's got Man Utd playing well. Meantime Tottenham have gone crazy with Everton and Liverpool also getting great wins. Man City off the boil  :o

Returning to my reality at Level 6, Torquay get their 8th win in a row and a crowd of 3863 - that's massive in NL(S). Trouble is, if we were in League 1 it would be around the same figure. Although TUFC are at the top, Woking have 2 games in hand. Torquay's home game yesterday was v Truro City at Plainmoor and on Jan 1st, the same game again at Plainmoor, due to a groundshare - it would be a local derby but Truro brought only 83 yesterday.

Kalvin Kalala and Connor Lemonheigh-Evans (a loanee from Bristol City) are quite special by all acounts. We'll see.
Title: The Nutter with the Putter - Craig Bellamy
Post by: Roger on December 29, 2018, 08:10:51 AM
Crikey !  :o  From John Arne Riise . . .

''I turned, but my eyes were half-asleep, and I didn’t see anything in the sudden, bright glare. But something made me realise that it wasn’t Agger. And soon I could see him – Craig Bellamy at the foot of my bed with a golf club in his hands. Bellamy raised the club over his head and swung as hard as he could. He tried to hit my shins, which would have ended my career, but I managed to pull my leg away in time.

I jumped out of bed, pulled off the sheet and held it between us like I was some kind of half-awake matador. Bellamy sputtered: “Nobody disrespects me like that in front of the lads!” He was completely gone. “I don’t care if I go to jail! My kids have enough money for school and everything. I don’t care. I’ll flipping do you!” He raised the club and swung again. This time he connected. Full force on my hip. I was so pumped with adrenaline that I didn’t feel the pain, but he hit me hard. It was an iron
.''

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/dec/28/craig-bellamy-raised-the-club-and-swung-he-could-have-ended-my-career-john-arne-riise-liverpool
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on December 29, 2018, 08:48:56 AM
Congratulations to Leroy Rosenior MBE

Leroy Rosenior, Show Racism the Red Card Vice President, has been awarded an MBE in the Queen’s birthday honours list for services to education thanks to his work supporting Show Racism the Red Card.

https://www.theredcard.org/news/2018/12/21/show-racism-the-red-card-vice-president-leroy-rosenior-is-set-receive-an-mbe-for-his-services-to-anti-racism-education
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on January 02, 2019, 04:28:45 PM
From the BBC - ''Chelsea have signed Borussia Dortmund forward Christian Pulisic for 64m euros (£58m), but will loan him back to the German club until the end of the season.'' This is absolutely bonkers - Chelsea already have a large no. of players on loan - imagine paying that much for someone you as yet don't need in your team. The system is crazy.

What an amazing EPL turnaround - if Liverpool beat Man City on Thursday, they'll be 'up and away'. Man City must win ! Spurs still chasing but can't see Chelsea staying the pace if Hazard goes. An improving Arsenal can be discounted and we have yet to see if Man Utd can perform against better sides, having crushed, Cardiff, Huddersfield and B'mth - good decision to sack the completely crackers Jose Mourinho. Good luck to Solskaer  :-\

Most importantly, in Torquay's away match yesterday, TUFC supporters outnumbered Truro City's, by 53:1. Is that a record ? Mind you the game was played at Torquay  ;) Unbeaten in 16 league games since the arrival of Gary Johnson, 9 wins in a row, and top, although chasing Woking have 2 games in hand. Come on you Gulls !
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on January 02, 2019, 04:47:07 PM
And in Blackpool there was a crowd of 11,000 to see them lose to Sunderland of which 7,800 were Sunderland fans
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on January 02, 2019, 04:50:49 PM
Hi Teess. So the other 40,000 Sunderland fans from last week had a day off  ;)
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: caller on January 02, 2019, 07:21:31 PM
From the BBC - ''Chelsea have signed Borussia Dortmund forward Christian Pulisic for 64m euros (£58m), but will loan him back to the German club until the end of the season.'' This is absolutely bonkers - Chelsea already have a large no. of players on loan - imagine paying that much for someone you as yet don't need in your team. The system is crazy.

It's a hell of a lot of money for a player the club knew would be leaving at the end of the season and it reflects the demand there would be for his signing. The guy is only 20 years old. Once again we have beaten other teams to a top signing. City wanted Jorghino but he came to Chelsea with Sarri.

Hazard has already said he isn't going anywhere in January.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on January 03, 2019, 07:26:44 AM
Hi Caller - it seems to be a massive fee for a Guy who'll be available anyway in 6 months time - it's for the player he will later become apparently ::) Elsewhere in this piece, the move is said to be 'masterful' - time will tell.

Chelsea 'madness' - the view in Germany

''This is not the first time a Premier League club has spent big money on a Bundesliga player. It will likely not be the last. This particular deal is one German newspaper Bild has described as on the "border" of "crazy", based on the conditions of the agreement.

The whole thing is "madness" from Chelsea's perspective, the tabloid added. They say Dortmund have once again profited from the "irrationality" of the Premier League, as Chelsea splashed out 64m euros on a "positionally limited" player that, as a substitute more recently, has "stagnated"
.''

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46740719
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: caller on January 03, 2019, 11:09:35 AM
Hi Caller - it seems to be a massive fee for a Guy who'll be available anyway in 6 months time

Yes, I am aware of that, but Chelsea clearly want him and it avoids the auction that will invariably take place at the end of the season for his signature. Now, if we could just sign a forward in January......
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on January 05, 2019, 03:37:03 PM
Bournemouth have picked up Dominic Solanke for £17 million and I'll be surprised if that doesn't prove to be a better signing than Jermaine Defoe - who is on his way to Glasgow Rangers on loan for 18 mths, at 36 years old  :P Good luck to him but at £100K pw he's proved a luxury for Bournemouth, a big mistake. Just 4 goals last season and no starts this season !

Here's another view :-

''While Rangers may be signing Defoe under false pretences, there are reports that the striker also has a misguided impression of the club he has joined. “When I heard there was interest from Rangers I was immediately intrigued,” Defoe told FFT.  “I’ve asked my agent to confirm what kind of hours a park ranger works, but it seems a logical step for me as it’ll require less pace and pinpoint finishing, and more standing with my hands on my hips and tutting. . . . . “A bit like Scottish football.”''

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/rangers-defoe-scouting-report-clearly-151832809.html

Nathanial Clyne is off to Bournemouth from Liverpool - a great player IMO but he can't get his place back at L'Pool - good for him - these Boys wanna play  ::)

Wolves hero Benik Afobe has gone to Stoke, £12 million . .
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on January 05, 2019, 03:56:52 PM
I saw a replay of Man City v Liverpool last night  ??? I had thought City would win and they did more than hold their own - BUT - Sadio Mane hammered the post, Vincent Kompany made a straight red wild tackle and stayed on. And I think we all saw Kompany hook the ball off the line, 90% over. So City were more than a bit lucky overall ?

Good ole Spurs scored 7 in the Cup ! Bit of a lesson for an aged ex Torquay Mark Ellis now Tranmere's centre back. Ouch !

Was looking at an old Fulham programme v Ipswich Boxing Day, 1963. What a defence including Tony Macedo, Jim Langley, George Cohen, Alan Mullery, Bobby Robson - wow ! The (then) incomparable Johnny Haynes and Graham Leggatt in attack. NO substitutes  :o  Fulham smacked a miserable Iswich 10-1 and I was there. Advertisers included 'Radio Times', Pye LP's at 19/11d, 'Kai Ling' with Chinese set dinner at 6/6d, and Senior Service tipped at 2/10d for 20.

I wonder how many Baht to the £ then  ;)

Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on January 08, 2019, 09:44:56 AM
Some big knockouts in the FA Cup - Fulham, Cardiff and Huddersfield improving their EPL chances courtesy of Oldham, Gillingham and Bristol City  ;)  Barnet, Newport and Portsmouth also see off Sheff Utd, Leicester City and Norwich  :o

The biggest surprise maybe, Wolves pip rampant Liverpool - that should please TW - WHAT a difference a month makes - ''Wolves have fallen to pieces - one point in the last 6 games. If this form continues they will be relegated!!'' (TW Dec 2nd). Wolves are certainly back on track now TW   :)

Level 6 Woking can't hold Watford, unsurprisingly, and can now return to the more important task of chasing 10 wins in a row Torquay United at the top of the NLS. Before the Watford game, Woking had pocketed a tidy £320K from this FA Cup run - that's quite meaningful for a part-time team.

Looking forward to the EPL again !

Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on January 14, 2019, 07:04:40 AM
Caller - at a quick look - Chelsea had NO Brits in their starting 11 and just 2 on the bench of 7 ? I hope that FA proposal progresses, i.e. to reduce 17 to 13 foreign players in the EPL squad of 25. The striker you want ? Talks going on with Higuain apparently  ::)

Man Utd win again - I had a strong hunch but backed off for a draw  :(
Solskaer is doing great but IMO he's best to leave all the talk of the permanent role to the Media - stay out of it and get on with the job - it's obvious he'd want the job anyway. If Pochettino resists Man Utd, talk is now of Gareth Southgate . . . just MO but I think he's more suited to England than to Club Management.
Title: Other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on January 17, 2019, 07:31:17 PM
10 winsina row  ;D

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46831080
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on January 18, 2019, 07:11:31 AM
Good to see the Managers of Nice and Monaco are still good friends - Patrick Vierra and Thierry Henri - two all time greats IMO. Martin O' Neill is now Manager at Notts Forest - that looks a fit but it's a while since he did well at Club level ? Andy Cole turns up at Macclesfield and Joe Cole at Derby - in support of Sol Campbell and Frank Lampard.

Mousa Dembele after 7 years at Spurs moves on to China - now out of the reckoning at Spurs, I'm sure he'll do well there and a nice pay day at 32  ;)  Great player IMO.

Leed's Manager in trouble for organising the watching of opponent's training - seems like a good idea to me. Most Clubs watch games of opponents coming up.

Chelsea's teenager Hudson-Odoi is about to get a GBP75K pw contract but has yet to start an EPL game  ;) 
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on January 19, 2019, 11:44:22 AM
I noticed in the Truevisions schedule that the Newcastle v Cardiff game will not be shown despite their claim of 380 games per season. With 6 PL games kicking off at 3:00 pm and Real Madrid at 3:15 I suppose someone had to miss out. They also give top billing (BeIn sports  1) to 6th place Man Utd rather than league leaders Liverpool.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on January 19, 2019, 04:28:46 PM
Teess - Man Utd rule down here, as ever, but Liverpool are popular too.

Never mind - you can watch the Swatcats play Pnomh Penh at 6pm today on True 24 - I expect them to win handsomely  8)   Thanks TW
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on January 21, 2019, 05:06:10 AM
James Milner is sent off for a nasty looking tackle taking Zaha's leg.
What a fantastic player JM has been for years and years - he was obviously taught well as a kid. Will he learn more now  ;)  Well done 'Teach'  8)

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6612777/James-Milner-sent-former-primary-school-teacher-Jon-Moss.html
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on January 26, 2019, 05:36:40 AM
Whatever was SO urgent that this poor Man had to be flown in a 35 year old plane by a part time gas engineer. Such a waste of life. Why not wait for a schedule flight  :'(
Sheer madness. R.I.P. Emiliano Sala . . . 

''Cardiff City could launch a negligence claim over the Emiliano Sala plane disaster as the club faces a financial loss of around £14 million even after insurance payouts, The Daily Telegraph can disclose. Senior figures at the club are increasingly concerned by the decision to fly their record signing across the English Channel in a single-engined plane built in 1984 and piloted by a part-time gas engineer.

Cardiff are now considering their legal position as they face a three-year contract bill estimated by accountants at £30million, including a £2.5million agents fee. Accident insurance is only likely to cover half the forecasted loss. One source payments from Cardiff to Nantes have been frozen until officials have established the facts from the crash.

Last night the club told The Telegraph: "Cardiff has made its position very clear that it had nothing to do with the arrangements of the flight, and now new information is coming in every day as we are continuing to investigate  the chain of events and the cause of the accident. We are looking at the potential possibility of negligence that may have caused the accident
.” ''

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/01/25/cardiff-consider-legal-action-emiliano-sala-plane-disaster-face/



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/01/25/cardiff-consider-legal-action-emiliano-sala-plane-disaster-face/
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on February 06, 2019, 05:08:51 AM
''Other football'' chat - I noticed that Danny Williams, who managed Swindon Town when they thrashed Arsenal at Wembley, 1969 - has died aged 94. R.I.P.

I was there - watching from a beam above the Arsenal end  ;D

Some lovely pictures from different times :-

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47114436
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on February 09, 2019, 01:57:52 PM
I fancy Fulham to ground Man Utd k.o. 7.30 tonight - but I'm not changing my EPL prediction. It's just a hunch   ;)
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Thaiwolf on February 09, 2019, 02:08:51 PM
I agree Roger. go on, change your prediction!!!
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on February 09, 2019, 02:14:21 PM
NO !!!  You change yours LOL !   8)
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on February 09, 2019, 03:45:24 PM
In the top 4 fixtures everybody has forecast wins for Man U, Arsenal and Liverpool while in the palace west ham game 3 go for palace and 5 for the draw.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on February 10, 2019, 01:23:56 PM
When there are no PL games to watch I get to see Serie A and La Liga both of which have VAR in operation. Sometimes its OK and used sparingly but occasionally it both dominates and spoils the game. Every goal is minutely examined looking for infringements in the build-up. In Serie A this sometimes means the players stand around while thr ref waits for word on his headset. After a couple of minutes of this he trots over to a tv at theside of the pitch to see for himself. I saw a goal in Serie A disallowed 4 minutes after scoring for an attacking player who pressed a full back into a mistake putting a foot on the white line of the penalty box just before the goal kick left the box. The EPL needs to ensure that VAR use not be overplayed next season.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on February 13, 2019, 04:53:25 PM
Man City 6 Chelsea 0

Sarri needs go change his tactics quickly. His policy of everything through Jorginho has been found out. He needs to put Kante back in his best position and remove the not good enough Pedro and Barkley while finding a place for Loftus-Cheek and Hudson-Odoi. Put Willian back in to take some pressure off Hazard. Yes City were good but Chelsea have not scored away in 2019!
Meanwhile OGS tastes defeat for first time against PSG. PSG put a man on Pogba to stop him playing and it worked so well Pogba was eventually sent off. We can expect to see this tactic repeated.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: caller on February 13, 2019, 08:12:40 PM
Man City 6 Chelsea 0

Sarri needs go change his tactics quickly. His policy of everything through Jorginho has been found out. He needs to put Kante back in his best position and remove the not good enough Pedro and Barkley while finding a place for Loftus-Cheek and Hudson-Odoi. Put Willian back in to take some pressure off Hazard. Yes City were good but Chelsea have not scored away in 2019!

If only it was as simple as that. As you say, once the others worked out how Chelsea were playing after our unbeaten start scoring at will, it's been all down hill and Sarri doesn't know how to respond. It was telling when he admitted on the advice of Guardiola, that he was concentrating on a mere nucleus of 14 players to train them to play his way. 

He has no plan B and so far, has shown no ability to change our style during the course of a game, apart from replacing one player with another, but in the same role.

The problem is he has lots' of fantastic players whose skills aren't really suited to tippy-tappy football.

I agree about Konte returning to his best position, who wouldn't? Well Sarri, seemingly. Same with playing Hazard out of position, it's nuts! I actually rate Barkley, but you feel he is playing with a stranglehold around him. On the odd occasion he forgets that, he does things like goal assists and scoring, but mainly he passes it 10 yards, then gets it back again, then passes it 10 yards again, as does Jorghino.

In fairness, Sarri always said it would take time and he claims we are nowhere near playing how he wants us to play.

I think football is best played with your soul and a passion that is best served by letting players play to their strengths, there was a buzz at first, but now it feels as though the players have lost all confidence in Sarri's methods. Hopefully that's not terminal, but he just cannot plough on as if everything is okay when it clearly isn't and then scratch his head wondering why, after another defeat. It's really up to him to show he has the ability at this level. 
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on February 14, 2019, 06:30:20 AM
Chelsea - ouch ! With Man Utd flying atm in the EPL under OGS - it looks like they might be outpaced to the Top 4  ??? Arsenal can't hope for better than 6th ?

Teess - the Guardian reviewing, 'Sunderland 'till I die' - I wondered if you'd seen this article . .

''Sunderland . . had operated as a kind of transit hub for pros going in different directions. There was young talent on the way up (the England goalkeeper Jordan Pickford had moved to Everton), old talent on the way down (John O’Shea, five times a Premier League winner with Manchester United), players on loan who hadn’t quite worked out elsewhere (the Wales midfielder Jonny Williams, borrowed from Crystal Palace), and players whose bright futures seemed suddenly behind them (the former Everton prodigy Jack Rodwell).''

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/feb/10/sunderland-til-i-die-plight-merely-very-good-football-player
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on February 14, 2019, 10:32:33 AM
Yes Roger I read the article. I get the Guardian kindle issue daily. I have not yet managed to locate the Netflix series "Sunderland til' I die' on YT but expect it to appear soon. Good win for Spurs last night, maybe Kane and Alli will struggle to get back in the team?
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Thaiwolf on February 14, 2019, 01:59:06 PM
Hi Tees, I bingewatched all episodes of "Sunderland till I die". The series is readily available using Kodi (addons "supremacy" and "exodus" have the series). A great series that I really enjoyed.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on February 24, 2019, 04:50:26 PM
From the BBC website : Leicester City have "parted company" with manager Claude Puel.

''City lost 4-1 at home to Crystal Palace on Saturday in what proved to be Puel's final game after 16 months in charge. Puel, 57, leaves the club 12th in the Premier League having lost five of their last six league games. The Frenchman guided Leicester to a ninth-place finish in the Premier League in his first season but the club are now looking for their fourth permanent manager in 23 months.

Saturday's defeat meant Leicester have lost four consecutive home Premier League games for the first time since January 2000 and conceded the first goal in 19 Premier League matches this season - more than any other side
.''

Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on March 04, 2019, 08:32:16 PM
Just watched Man Utd v Southampton at the Pub  :-\

A really good game - 5 great goals. Man U have had an amazing sequence of less than 'top' fixtures but notwithstanding, with the appalling JM I don't think they would have made the number of points they have since OGS arrived. Cardiff fans must be horrified but we all know the reasons why.

For me the pick of the goals was Ward-Prowse and Pereira - but Lukaku scored 2 brilliant goals too. As a Man U NOT lover, I'm beginning to like 'em  ::)

OGS's best talent is to pull the Guys together unlike the JM. Had to blink at Pogba's 'missed' penalty - poor shot but the save with the trailing foot - flukey but G Banks standard. Good fun.

Last comment, promise  :-\  I see JM has been commenting on OGS and MUFC results since he was SACKED. Pathetic  ::)
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on March 04, 2019, 10:55:15 PM
Poor penalty by Pogba. If it had gone in Pogba would gave been praised with some drivel like "he waited for Gunn to move". Smash it in the corner like Kane does. On that matter Kane was offside when fouled so should not have got the penalty and Vertonghen was almost alongside Aubameyang for the Arsenal penalty.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: dereklev on March 05, 2019, 06:11:45 AM
Yes Verthongen was quite close to Aubameyang but there were two Arses players just as close when Harry scored his penalty.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on March 07, 2019, 05:43:49 AM
Well done Manchester Utd - after a good start from Lukaku, Man Utd apparently were outplayed but got stronger as the game went on.
'' . . . the first team to overturn a 2-0 first leg deficit at home in this competition''  :)

A stunning effort and I'm delighted that Marcus Rashford took the penalty - after being handled badly by Southgate for England and the ridiculous Mourinho at Man Utd, he seals this great day with a penalty.

I daresay some of you watched live but there are brilliant pics in this DM link :-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-6779099/PSG-1-3-Manchester-United-3-2agg-gasp-Marcus-Rashford-VAR-penalty-seals-quarter-final-spot.html

Just a footnote - rumours are that Real Madrid may turn to JM in thier hour of crisis  ::)
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Robert on March 07, 2019, 01:06:38 PM
Hi Roger,

because the title of this topic is "Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019 I hesitated to wite something about Real Madrid versus Ajax. However when visiting a barbershop this morning noticed a Thai newspaper with a rather prominent photo on the frontpage. It made me smile again.

Robert

(https://i.ibb.co/pZfFPgK/Ajax-Thaise-krant-1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2Pv46wM)
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Alfie on March 07, 2019, 01:13:16 PM
It was a great result for Ajax.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: dereklev on March 07, 2019, 02:15:53 PM
It was a great result for Ajax.

It certainly was a fantastic result for Ajax.

Looks like they have a great young team again.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: jivvy on March 15, 2019, 10:09:02 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on March 16, 2019, 05:51:25 PM
FA cup games now on BeIn Sports. All 3 games live tonight, more tomorrow.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on March 17, 2019, 07:13:45 AM
Thanks for the tip off Teess.

I was reading the Fan's BB on TUFC until midnight  :-\  Down to 10 men after 13 minutes, they dominated to get a vital 2-0 win - in contrast to the Swatcats who seemed to lose their heads when Trat went down to 10 men with half an hour to go  ::) Amazing turnaround at TUFC since Gary Johnson replaced Gary Owers in mid-Sep - from strugglers to Champions ? Local Boy Jamie Reid who was being vilified by some Fans at that time has now scored 28  :)

A certain Wolves fan will be bubbling for sure  ::)

Watford - Man City - Wolves - Brighton/Millwall.

Man Utd fans are no doubt gutted - let's see if OGS can pick 'em up again  :-\
 
Title: Re: Other football chat - Adam Johnson
Post by: Roger on March 22, 2019, 12:42:03 PM
Adam Johnson has been released from prison AFTER SERVING HIS SENTENCE for 'grooming, kissing and touching'  ::)  a 15 year old Girl. He behaved like a sleazy git and broke the Law, but IMHO, he should now be allowed to get on with his life.

Just because he was a famous footballer, he will now serve a further sentence (under similar pressure to that suffered by Ched Evans), being hounded by a salacious and vindictive Press for the amusement of readers.

NOT to defend him, but in context, the minimum age of 'consent' to sexual intercourse in Austria, Germany, Italy and Portugal is 14 and in Denmark, France, and Greece 15. There is no suggestion that the attention given to the Girl was unwanted - no element of cooercion.

Leave him alone I say - to pick up his life and do better . . .

''He (Johnson) has also been told that football leagues clubs will not go near him after Sportsmail contacted the clubs of his local area in Durham. Not one of the League One or League Two clubs within a daily commute of Johnson’s home in County Durham said they would consider speaking to him.

One chief executive said he could not envisage any Football League club offering the 31-year-old a way back into the game given the nature of his conviction and the backlash it would cause. We have also discovered that Johnson will be denied the chance of a payday in China because of strict visa requirements to work in the country
.''

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6837125/Shamed-ex-footballer-Adam-Johnson-banned-seeing-four-year-old-daughter.html
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on March 25, 2019, 04:48:25 PM
Well done Spurs - views of the new Stadium in this link . . .

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/mar/24/tottenham-new-stadium-mauricio-pochettino

I had understood there was a slide-away American Football pitch but can't see any sign of it  at all  :-[
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Spursruss on March 25, 2019, 09:27:28 PM
Well done Spurs - views of the new Stadium in this link . . .

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/mar/24/tottenham-new-stadium-mauricio-pochettino

I had understood there was a slide-away American Football pitch but can't see any sign of it  at all  :-[

The football pitch slides away under the South Stand in sections, revealing the artificial grass NFL pitch underneath.  All very state of the art.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on March 26, 2019, 04:10:57 PM
Thanks Russ . . . I can't quite visualise that  :-\

The football pitch is presumably as solid as land - those slideaway sections must be quite deep, say 1 metre at least ? That's quite a pile of turf  ;)  And, when it slides back for proper football again, what about the joins of the sections ?

I find it mindboggling and all for the odd NFL game. With just a football pitch, Spurs would have saved tens and tens of millions and maybe been in the new Stadium a lot earlier ?

Let's see how it works out  :-\  Thanks.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Thaiwolf on March 26, 2019, 05:04:52 PM
It.s been done to allow a future NFL London franchise so well worth the dosh!!
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: caller on March 26, 2019, 08:51:07 PM
It.s been done to allow a future NFL London franchise so well worth the dosh!!

Another one? What happened to the previous one's?
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Thaiwolf on March 27, 2019, 06:28:21 AM
I think it will happen this time. Rumours are that the Jacksonville Jaguars will be moving to London - maybe take two or three years to expedite.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on March 27, 2019, 08:01:34 AM
I'm usually wrong about these things BUT re NFL at Tottenham - BAH HUMBUG !

Hope I'm wrong for Spurs sake   ;)
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Thaiwolf on March 27, 2019, 08:48:21 AM
Roger, all of the "guest" NFL matches played at Wembley have been 80 000 plus sellouts. There is genuine interest in the NFL in the UK - it's only a matter of time before there is a UK franchise - I personally cannot wait!!!
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: caller on March 27, 2019, 09:57:22 AM
Roger, all of the "guest" NFL matches played at Wembley have been 80 000 plus sellouts. There is genuine interest in the NFL in the UK - it's only a matter of time before there is a UK franchise - I personally cannot wait!!!

That's because it's a one-off event and lots of yanks go as well as other interested parties. I remember the previous London franchise. Shops sprung up selling all the gear, there was great enthusiasm and then it dwindled and died. I can't see that changing. But good luck with it.

From wiki:

Although American football in the United Kingdom has historically been a niche sport, British interest in the NFL peaked in the 1980s, in which time London hosted some pre-season games; during the 1990s, the city hosted the London Monarchs in the league's developmental Europe League.[1] However, as all NFL Europe franchises outside Germany and the Netherlands, the Monarchs were ultimately relocated due to lack of public interest. Popular interest waned with the growth of the Premier League in the 1990s, although it grew again from 2007 following the establishment of the International Series. It also led to steady increases in actual participation in amateur games.[1]
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on March 27, 2019, 12:03:59 PM
TW - as I said, I'm usually wrong but one more 'Bah Humbug' anyway.
(You'll be old one day then you'll get it  ;) )

Seriously though, those attendance figures are impressive - we'll have to wait and see. I still can't quite imagine thousands of tons of football pitch shuffling off under the South Stand as SpursRuss says. Even though it does presumably function that way  ???
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on March 28, 2019, 05:38:33 AM
Good news for UK Footballers . . . .

''It has been the longest of goodbyes for the PFA’s 74-year-old chairman. Taylor is one of the great pachydermic survivors of sports administration, brought down in the end by repeated darts from the media – mainly about the size of his salary – and by the emergence finally of serious opposition from within his organisation.''

''This is perhaps a good moment to wonder what Jimmy Hill would have made of all this. It’s not clear what the PFA’s most notable chairman thought about his successor being paid £2m a year to perform the role Hill did for nothing.''

''What is striking is Taylor became chairman only 20 years after Hill had helped bring about what remains the only really significant act in the PFA’s history. This was the abolition of the salary cap and the junking of the retain and transfer system, giving players the freedom to move between clubs.''

''The Taylor template can simply be ripped up. A players’ union does not have to be funded by TV money. It can instead be funded by the players themselves and empowered to act in their interests; made to look, believe it or not, like an actual union rather than an arm of the status quo.''

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/mar/27/gordon-taylor-pfa-exit-opens-door-rise-players-union-bite

I'm not sure that the GBP 32 million should be set aside as implied above - surely some good use can be found for that ! Very good riddance to Taylor - from reply 18/19 :-

''The extent of financial problems suffered by players also underlies the resentment felt by many over the £2.29m annual salary earned by Gordon Taylor, the players’ union’s chief executive, which contrasts with a total of £500,000 the PFA distributed in benevolent grants last year.''   >:(   ::)
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on March 30, 2019, 06:59:43 AM
So Man Utd have appointed O G-S as Manager on a permanent basis - I'll hazard a guess that'll prove to be a mistake  ::)  Why the rush ? O G-S wasn't going anywhere and the Media having pushed the build up will now delight in every faltering. Man Utd riding the wave with their usual irresponsibility, have paid him GBP 7 million pa, a ridiculous amount for a Rookie who failed at Cardiff. I like O G-S but why the rush ?

Everton's Leighton Baines and Phil Jagielka are out of contract in June - two outstanding servants - useful signings for some EPL sides still ? MLS and China beckon ?

Pochettino at Spurs must be chuffed to get into the new Stadium after maybe being disappointed at recent appointments at Real Madrid and Man Utd. But I think he needs to go back to School with Klopp and others on this :-

"Mauricio Pochettino has said he would not hesitate to call his Tottenham players off the field if any of them were subjected to racist abuse – a stance echoed by Manchester City’s Pep Guardiola and Jürgen Klopp at Liverpool. Pochettino was appalled when one of his players – Danny Rose – had monkey chants directed at him during England’s Euro 2020 qualifying win in Montenegro on Monday night.''    ::)  (Guardian).

Loopy idea - losing supporters would be able to escape defeat by chanting racial abuse.
As for Danny Rose poor luv  :-\  Sticks and stones and all that. The way to tackle this problem is to close the ground for HOME supporters at the next game . . .  ;)

Teess - thought you might enjoy this . . .
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/03/29/sunderland-overcame-trauma-double-relegation-reconnect-fans/



Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on March 30, 2019, 07:21:20 AM
Thanks Roger, a good read. Lets hope they can win something on Sunday. 40,000 fans going down for the game.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: caller on March 31, 2019, 10:17:33 PM
Sometimes, it's embarrassing to win a game of football.  :-[
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on April 01, 2019, 09:48:16 AM
Hi Caller. I wonder if you refer to Chelsea or Liverpool ?
Probably both I guess  ;)
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: caller on April 01, 2019, 12:09:16 PM
Hi Caller. I wonder if you refer to Chelsea or Liverpool ?
Probably both I guess  ;)

Well, as it turned out, it could apply to both! How many last minute blunders have Liverpool benefitted from.

Can't understand what's happened to Spurs, but not playing Son seems a mistake.

As for Sarri, for 3 games he abandoned Sarri ball and we did really well, then he goes back to the boredom and we start losing again. We have flair players being asked to play like robots. It's not working. A friend and his wife (and he and I first went to Chelsea together as kids) wrote to tell me they might not renew their season tickets next season, not because he's not a fan - they went to Bolton years ago when we first won the premiership and found themselves staying in the same hotel as the players - but because he has said it's so predictably boring and they're just not enjoying it any more.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on April 09, 2019, 02:41:45 PM
FWIW I agree with Raheem Sterling's attitude on this.

'' ''England's Raheem Sterling says players should not leave pitch over racist abuse . .
'If you walk off they win' - Sterling on racist abuse. England winger Raheem Sterling says players should not leave the pitch if there is racist abuse from the stands because "if you walk off they win". Sterling, 24, was one of several England players to have racist chants directed at them during last month's Euro 2020 qualifier in Montenegro.

He responded by putting his hands to his ears after scoring in the 5-1 win. "I wouldn't personally agree with walking off," said Manchester City's Sterling. "To win the game would hurt them even more. They're only trying to get you down''.

"If you walk off they win. To score or win would be better
." ''

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47858314

Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Alfie on April 15, 2019, 10:07:50 PM
Good news for Roger. Torquay United have won promotion back to the National League with 3 games still to play.

Great stuff from Gary Johnson. Another promotion to add to his list.

Gary Johnson's Promotions:
1989-90 : Cambridge United (Fourth Division play-off winners, as assistant manager)
1990-91 : Cambridge United (Third Division Champions, as assistant manager)
2002-03 : Yeovil Town (Conference Champions)
2004-05 : Yeovil Town (League Two Champions)
2006-07 : Bristol City (League One automatic promotion)
2012-13 : Yeovil Town (League One play-off winners)
2015-16 : Cheltenham Town (National League Champions)
2018-19 : Torquay United (National League South Champions)

Gary Johnson has now won promotion from four different divisions and five different teams. He is also one of only three managers to have won promotion into the Foobtball League with more than one club.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on April 16, 2019, 06:50:26 AM
Thanks for that Alfie - on the Fans Forum I recall a post that since GJ arrived in September, Torquay have won 23 out of 30 ? If that's correct it's a remarkable 75% win rate and although it's level 6, there's always 2 teams out there  ;)

85 points in the bag with 88 goals scored - Champions with 3 games to go  :D

I noted this on the Fan's Forum recently :-

Post by Swatcat » 04 Apr 2019, 06:24
''One of the heart-warming aspects of Torquay's brilliant Gary Johnson era this season, is a turnaround for your local boy Jamie Reid. Having hit 30 goals now his fan rating will be 'off the scale', vis the early criticism he received. Well done GJ but most of all - well done Jamie. To pick yourself up after all that 'approbation' shows some real strength of character. Never look back now Jamie !''

When GJ arrived, Reid had been the subject of much vilification - Reid is a forgiving Fellow - having already signed for next season . . .

Alfie ATB
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on April 16, 2019, 08:14:54 AM
I wonder if Teess got to see Sunderland score 4 at home this weekend only to lose the game 4-5. Ouch !   :(   If Barnsley grab the automatic promotion, that'll be a good opportunity down the drain for Sunderland.

Good Luck against a lively Doncaster Friday !
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on April 16, 2019, 03:51:06 PM
Not at the game Roger, but following events on Soccer Saturday with Jeff Stelling. Went behind 4 times in the game for first home defeat. The game v Donny is on Sky Friday so hope to see them bounce back. Then we play Portsmouth in which I hope they can get revenge for our Wemnley loss on pens.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Robert on April 17, 2019, 03:37:52 PM
Juventus - Ajax: 1 -2. The fairy tale continues...... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on April 17, 2019, 05:47:22 PM
Hi Robert and well done Ajax - I have a Dutch Pal in Dan Kwian and he is over the moon with Ajax atm. Last time I saw him, he observed that when the season ends, Ajax will as usual, lose their best Players to the big money European Clubs - that's sad - so it'll be good IF they can lift the Champions League this time  ;)
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on April 17, 2019, 08:34:22 PM
Robert - just for you . . . .

''This is a love letter, a tribute to a team that has made me fall in love with football again and a club who have reminded us all that something pure remains unsullied in the beautiful game. You may not fully appreciate how special Ajax are, not yet. You will probably be unaware of the journey this famous Dutch club has been on, the thinking behind the process that has brought them to the brink of a Champions League final for the first time in 23 years.

Ajax are amazing and I do not use those words lightly. They play with freedom of expression, they play like a team born in Amsterdam, that most artistic and rebellious of cities where you are allowed to indulge; where hedonism is a way of life and your creativity is nurtured and encouraged. If ever a football team symbolised its home city, it is Ajax. It is an incredible team, not just a joy to behold, but remarkable because this is simply not supposed to happen in the modern game
''.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/04/17/love-letter-ajax-europes-exciting-team/
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on April 17, 2019, 08:49:45 PM
I worried what was the rush ?? Anyone notice the Press game ?

''Okay, let's not panic just yet. Yes, Manchester United are not quite the force they had threatened to be in the early days of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's reign, and yes, after a resounding 4-0 aggregate defeat to Barcelona, they are now out of the running in every competition, meaning the success of their season rests on securing qualification for the 2019/20 Champions League.

However, given the position they were in when Jose Mourinho was sacked in December - 11 points off fourth after 17 games, if you needed reminding - the chance to make this season's top four certainly shouldn't be sniffed at.''

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/04/17/end-ole-gunnar-solskjaers-honeymoon-gone-awry-manchester-united/
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Robert on April 18, 2019, 07:20:51 AM
Robert - just for you . . . .

''This is a love letter, a tribute to a team that has made me fall in love with football again and a club who have reminded us all that something pure remains unsullied in the beautiful game. You may not fully appreciate how special Ajax are, not yet. You will probably be unaware of the journey this famous Dutch club has been on, the thinking behind the process that has brought them to the brink of a Champions League final for the first time in 23 years.

Ajax are amazing and I do not use those words lightly. They play with freedom of expression, they play like a team born in Amsterdam, that most artistic and rebellious of cities where you are allowed to indulge; where hedonism is a way of life and your creativity is nurtured and encouraged. If ever a football team symbolised its home city, it is Ajax. It is an incredible team, not just a joy to behold, but remarkable because this is simply not supposed to happen in the modern game
''.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/04/17/love-letter-ajax-europes-exciting-team/

Hi Roger,

this is the reason why I have been an Ajax-supporter since 1969. Ajax plays football for the supporters not only for the result. If I would be a supporter of such a club no need to see the match only the result.

Still happy, but what a game between Man City and Spurs! Against Man City I would have said 70/30 chance, against Spurs 50/50 depending upon the flow of the players.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on April 23, 2019, 11:53:30 AM
Footy is gripping atm - in The Champions League - Liverpool and Spurs in the semis, MCFC and MUFC having missed out  8)  Ajax had a remarkable win over Juventus who have just won their 8th Serie A title in succession. Aaron Ramsey of Arsenal is a good player but he's a bit lucky to be joining Juventus next season IMO - he'll have some fun there.

Barcelona have the chance of 3 EPL scalps, MUFC (done), Liverpool next and maybe Spurs in the Final. Myself I'd like to see Ajax get to the Final and beat Barca.

In the Europa League, Arsenal and Chelsea in the semis too.

At Man Utd problems loom - ''Manchester United's angry players turned on each other in the aftermath of the humiliating defeat at Everton. . . . . The players then pointed the finger at one another during a heated exchange, and raised voices could be heard from the corridor outside as they argued among themselves.'' (DM). I watched the game and thought that Everton played with a real passion and deserved to win - Utd were simply outplayed on the night - Mr G Neville needs to wind in his adjectives - 'rancid' - hardly appropriate.

Why don't Goalie's stand up ? Wayne Hennessy of Palace is in the news for other reasons, (hundreds of articles on that 'Salute') showed a fine example of 'kneel down' keeping in a recent game. On his knees for a narrow angled shot that would have been chest level if he'd stood up. I see this 'fault' a lot and don't geddit.

Although Christian Walton, Wigan's keeper, lost his place for a while recently, I saw talk of a 4 million transfer. Then the next game, one popped up off his chest and the points were lost. Since then, several match winning performances from CW including Leeds away, and Wigan are now safe.

Aston Villa - 10 successive wins - is John Terry still there assisting ? The Play offs should be good - Leeds, Villa, WBA and ?

Glorious TUFC after securing the top spot, lose to Chippenham (again) and Hungerford at home with an NLS record crowd of 5,300  :) Jamie Reid at No.9 has 31 goals but none with his head - they say he can't get off the ground - a bit of coaching needed there.

And NOT to forget ole' Teess' Sunderland - 9 points will still do it M8 !
Good luck . .  :)
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: caller on April 23, 2019, 02:39:05 PM
Aston Villa - 10 successive wins - is John Terry still there assisting ?

Yes, full job title is Assistant Manager.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on April 27, 2019, 05:08:04 PM
Thanks Caller re JT - I see a report today lauding his efforts in that role at Villa.

Until I read that Man Utd had lost 7 out of their last 9 games and hadn't scored in 3, I'd not quite realised how badly Man Utd's form had slumped. O G-S starting to sound a bit defensive and he needs to avoid that. I saw the 1st half against MCFC and I didn't think MUFC looked that bad and they still have a chance of making the top four if Chelsea slip :)

Danny Rose is disappointed at the leniency of Montenegro's punishment for racist chanting - one match behind closed doors versus Kosovo who no doubt have lots of black players. IMHO very lenient.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/danny-rose-racism-england-vs-montenegro-fans-racist-abuse-uefa-punishment-lost-for-words-a8888861.html

What an amazing race for the EPL top spot - a brilliant win for Liverpool last night 5-0 keeps the pressure on MCFC - Liverpool can get 97 points and MCFC 98 points IF they keep winning. Fantastic.

And very sad to hear :-

''Emiliano Sala's father has died, months after the footballer was killed in a plane crash in the English Channel, a politician has said. Horacio Sala, 58, died at his home in Progreso in Argentina's Santa Fe province, local media reported on Friday. The 28-year-old Argentine footballer, who had signed for Cardiff City, disappeared with the pilot of the Piper Malibu after it crashed in the waters north of Guernsey on January 21.''

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/04/26/emiliano-salas-father-dies-heart-problem-just-months-sons-tragic/

I wonder if Cardiff will have to pay that fee ? There are reports Mr Sala senior was involved in booking the flight on which Emiliano died . . . . RIP both
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on May 04, 2019, 06:50:00 AM
MMMmmmmmm . . .  :-\

''With a six-figure weekly pay cheque, it is safe to assume that a Premier League footballer’s hunt for a dream home in one of the UK’s wealthiest counties is a straightforward affair. But Liverpool midfielder Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain has suggested that top players are running out of mansions in Cheshire – with many left “scrambling for a house” due to the high demand for luxury rental properties.

The county is home to an area nicknamed the “Golden Triangle”, which has five of the 10 most expensive roads in the North West and where property prices average more than £1.5 million. Estate agents say the desire for swimming pools, large gardens and modern houses is a key reason why the county is struggling to keep up with footballers hunting for a new home
.''

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/05/03/premier-league-footballers-running-luxury-mansions-buy/

The situation seems different in Essex - Andy Carroll . .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6990557/Rod-Stewart-loses-3-4m-finally-sells-Essex-mansion-footballer-course.html
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on May 06, 2019, 06:25:16 PM
I was reminded recently that Liverpool have only lost ONE game all season  :) That is an amazing achievement, 28 wins and 7 draws in 36 games.

I wondered who would be on top IF the old 2 points for a win and one for a draw was still in place . . . .

At 36 games played, I make it that Liverpool would be on top with 63 points and MCFC lagging on 62 points, (30 wins, 2 draws).

I'd like MCFC to win it, BUT, it's easily argued that Liverpool with just ONE defeat, deserve it more  :-\

The pressure on MCFC has been enormous, with Liverpool playing their fixtures first for many weeks - the heat is ON at 3 am this morning.

Anyone going to watch it ?

Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on May 06, 2019, 08:10:43 PM
I'll be watching Roger but then its only 20:00 here.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on May 06, 2019, 09:28:47 PM
Teess - I'll just be waking up towards the end of - a quick look and then back to bed  ::)

Watched Hudds v Man Utd replay just now - the latter not that bad but panic is in the air - even Michael Carrick has grown a beard ! Cardiff's O G-S is already talking down his squad but he needs to build 'em up and motivate them. Maybe evolution not revolution . . .

Hudds Mbenza scored the equaliser, doing his Stuart Pearce model of hysterical behaviour, he runs over and kicks/breaks the corner flag - not even a yellow card. A case should be brought for criminal damage. I'm fed up with all this drama . . .

Alexei Sanchez is widely vilified for his obscene wages - but I thought he played OK - off injured - not surprising - why sign him at those wages if he's not going to play regularly. He ain't match fit ! Pogba, another hunted by the media, hits the bar twice in an otherwise unexceptional stint. Phil Jones - God only knows what he's paid as an honest journeyman - has just been given a new 4 1/2 year contract has he not ? Man Utd are their own worst enemies.

De Gea doesn't make a mistake but the Guy at the other end - whoops !

Man U's 'Chong', a shorter David Luiz with more hair and attacking skills, looks a good player - but will the Diana Ross approach work ? Soon we'll be reading his personal anguish about the shortage of suitable Mansions in the area.

Well done Hudds - good effort. Man Utd you're not Man City or Liverpool atm so not being top is just something to work at. Good Luck !

And TUFC are Champions by 10 points and 25 goals - next season won't be so easy  :-\

Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: jivvy on May 06, 2019, 09:43:58 PM

Roger
"the heat is ON at 3 am this morning"
Only 6 hour difference now so it wiil be a 2am kick-off for people here to watch, not 3am.
Enjoy tthe game if you watch it.
l will be sound asleep ( I hope )
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on May 07, 2019, 04:45:17 PM
Correct Jivvy ! And an amazing EPL Sunday coming . . .

Liverpool take on Barca Tuesday night without Salah and Firminho due to injury and look likely to be knocked out of the Champions league   :(

Man City have a full week's rest !

On Sunday, Liverpool take on a feisty Wolves. Brighton may have a point to make after a miserable season.

The odds are for both at the top to win but ....   :-\
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on May 08, 2019, 10:47:18 AM
Well done Liverpool - fantastic - I can see them winning the Cup now. In this mood, Liverpool will get past Wolves on Sunday, for certain   8)

Maybe an all England final   :-\

So Man City MUST win their game  :)
Title: A 'Full English' etc - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on May 11, 2019, 12:57:13 PM
English Clubs have had the European football giants for breakfast  :)
Well it's just a one off atm but an amazing one off nevertheless  :o 
Barcelona, Real Madrid, Juventus, PSG, Bayern Munich and all will soon be back.

For Sunday's drama, K-F's EPL forecasters so far favour an MCFC win to be Champions - that'll be a tough ask after 13 (?) wins in a row and with Brighton/Hughton having a point to prove in the spotlight, after a poor season. Should be a good watch . . .
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Robert on May 11, 2019, 02:36:46 PM
Some remarks if I may as still suffering from last Wednesday. You talk about English clubs now in both finals but how many English players? Chelsea 1, Arsenal 1, Liverpool 3, Tottenham 3. So out of 44 players on the pitches only 8 were English. The big money has really spoiled the sport IMHO. English clubs get so much money already from TV-pool, other countries like The Netherlands can never compete with. Besides that money rich billionaires want to have their own playtoy. Enjoy the finals, I will not be watching  :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on May 11, 2019, 03:24:36 PM
Hi Robert. I thought you might reply  ;)   I'd favour a maximum non-UK of 5 in each EPL match day squad. That said, other Countries use some 'foreign'players too.

You watched the Ajax game - how disappointing that must have been - 96 minutes   :(   I hope Ajax keep some of their best Players and can do well again next year - it would have been great to see them in this Final.

You say, ''The big money has really spoiled the sport IMHO.'' I agree with you on that in MANY ways . . .
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: jivvy on May 11, 2019, 03:57:13 PM

West Ham won the European Cup Winners Cup in 1965 with 11 English players. Ten of them had come through West Ham’s youth system.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on May 11, 2019, 05:02:10 PM
Up the 'ammers !  :)
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on May 11, 2019, 05:15:39 PM
Interesting chat in the DT - four 'experts' pick their combined Man City and Liverpool sides.

All four chose : Alexander-Arnold, Van Dijk, Laporte, Robertson

All four chose : B. Silva, Aguero, Sterling

3 chose Ederson in goal

Roll on Sunday - btw the Liverpool game is live on PPTV 36 free to air.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Robert on May 11, 2019, 06:16:41 PM

West Ham won the European Cup Winners Cup in 1965 with 11 English players. Ten of them had come through West Ham’s youth system.

Ajax won Europa Cup 1 in 1971 with 10 Dutch players and 1 Serbier. How times have changed!
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on May 11, 2019, 07:26:06 PM
Celtic won the european cup in Lisbon in 1967 and all 11 players were born within a radius of 30 miles from Glasgow. However its a different game now. Of Englands 4 teams in the upcoming european finals only 8 of those that started this week are qualified to play for England.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on May 13, 2019, 04:13:48 PM
Watched Brighton v Man City last night - the Champs elect looked a bit nervy to me but their first goal unlocked things and off they went for their 14th win in a row. Exceptional.

Worth noting that MCFC and LFC finished 26/25 points clear of Chelsea in 3rd with a goal difference of 48/43 MORE  :o than  Chelsea's +24

The 98/97 points tally was soberingly, more than 6 x Huddersfield's - ouch !

A VERY embarassing day for O G-S at Cardiff and Congrats to TW's Wolves who finished a cracking 7th !

Just as a teaser, end of season, on the ancient tally of 2 points for a win, LIVERPOOL would have been Champs by one point  :'( 
That's how close it was - roll on next season  :)
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Teessider on May 13, 2019, 06:40:25 PM
Yes Man City take 42 points from their last 14 games and they needed all of them to hold off Liverpool. Next Saturday they have the opportunity of an unprecedented treble while Liverpool just need to beat Spurs in the CL final. Chelsea and Arsenal fans have to plot a route to Baku (Azerbaijan) for their final.
Man City for next season will be looking to replace the ageing Kompany and Fernandinho anc thd injury ptone Mendy while United have bigger problems. Only de Gea, Pogba and Rashford seem good enough.
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on May 13, 2019, 08:43:39 PM
Shocking to make Arsenal and Chelsea go to Baku FGS  >:(
L'Pool and Spurs go to Madrid  :o

Management of Football at Supra National level is still shoot  :(

Teess not sure I agree about that Man Utd picture - but . . .

And this - Brighton's big mistake. I predict now, next season - DOWN

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/may/13/brighton-sack-chris-hughton-as-manager-after-poor-run-of-form-in-2019
Title: Re: Premier League and other football chat - 2018-2019
Post by: Roger on May 14, 2019, 06:28:10 AM
The Media turn on Solskjaer - good sport for them :-

''A Manchester United Unicef dinner in late January revealed the picture was far more complicated than it first seemed when Ole Gunnar Solskjaer arrived as manager. The Norwegian's team had strolled to seven straight wins, leaving you wondering why the club hadn't thought of going back to the old school sooner. But guests who had paid out for tables at the Old Trafford event were puzzled by Paul Pogba's apparent disappearance after 45 minutes. They found Alexis Sanchez less than enthusiastic when approached.''

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7024921/Manchester-United-sack-Ole-Gunnar-Solskjaer-wrong-man-job.html

''Solskjaer had ordered his players to report to Carrington for the debriefing before going away on holiday. But he was so upset over the final-day loss to Cardiff City at Old Trafford that he told them not to bother.''

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7024919/Ole-Gunnar-Solskjaer-cancels-Manchester-Uniteds-end-season-review.html

''There were also widespread calls for the club to go out and try to lure Tottenham boss Mauricio Pochettino. The Argentine had been the preferred choice when Mourinho was sacked but a move failed to come to fruition.''

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7023123/Manchester-United-fans-turn-Ole-Gunnar-Solskjaer-Cardiff-loss.html

The second story, cancelling the 'debrief' makes me wonder if O G-S is already in 'times up' mode ??? Will Man Utd back an O G-S rebuild . . . ?