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 21 
 on: June 12, 2019, 11:21:35 PM 
Started by Alfie - Last post by caller
Deleted. Maybe message too long, but when posted, text is lost.

 22 
 on: June 12, 2019, 11:15:03 PM 
Started by Alfie - Last post by caller
deleted - won't show all message

 23 
 on: June 12, 2019, 07:29:53 PM 
Started by Alfie - Last post by Coolkorat
Robert, I completely understand and respect your viewpoint and I do not, in any way, wish a recession and hardship on anyone. The entire world is staring down the barrel of recession and the impact may be as great (or greater) on the UK as on mainland Europe. This is not a uniquely British view; this is CNBC: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/03/germany-could-enter-a-recession-in-2019-economist-says.html

My own view is that the UK would be better to remain and reform than leave, but this is entirely dependent upon having an EU prepared to adapt to the times, and the current non-elected leaders seem determined to continue on their own (very federalist) agenda. The whole issue of Brexit would have been killed-off if the EU had announced a 'Lisbon2' to review and update, giving the UK and others chance to reform the elements of Lisbon that failed the block in the face of the financial crisis. Instead they played Cameron and pushed the UK into the referendum. I still think the opportunity is there for them to announce a 'Lisbon2' and give all EU members a chance to review and update the mechanism of the EU to balance the effects of the Euro and the debt situation in countries like Italy which are leaning further right and looking at shadow currencies (see https://www.ft.com/content/7a5c20b8-8b9d-11e9-b8cb-26a9caa9d67b. But with the federalists in charge, there is no chance.


 24 
 on: June 12, 2019, 06:10:58 PM 
Started by Alfie - Last post by Robert
I hesitated to reply but feel I have to do now. Maybe the Brexiteers could understand that the UK wanted to get out and therefore UK started the negotiations in a not too good position? There is a deal and why should EU start over every time a new government is in place in the UK?

Furthermore I do not like that the me, me attitude is starting to show. I would like to remind everybody that the EU consists of 508.450.856 persons including UK with 64.875.165 persons.  Wishing recession and bad times for 443.575.691 individuals does not look human IMHO. Think 99,999999% do not have any influence at all so why wish them a bad future is something I cannot understand.

Anyway I will stop again reacting to this topic as tried to look at both sides and the best solution but read only UK side so leave it to the British now. Have finally given up to reason.

 25 
 on: June 12, 2019, 04:15:46 PM 
Started by Alfie - Last post by Coolkorat
Boris knows that all he needs to do is sit it out and the European economy will spiral into recession. The reason the EU are pushing so hard is to press everything through before the crap hits the fan!

 26 
 on: June 12, 2019, 04:13:37 PM 
Started by Roger - Last post by Coolkorat
Primary school kids do not IMO need to be taught LGBT 'equality' . . .

''Protests against the teaching of LGBT equality at a Birmingham school have been halted temporarily following a high court injunction. Birmingham city council secured the injunction to protect Anderton Park primary school. The temporary order, which came into force immediately, bans protesters from an exclusion zone in the streets surrounding the school in the Moseley area of Birmingham.''

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jun/11/birmingham-anti-lgbt-protesters-banned-school-injunction

But it isn't 'LGBT' anymore (which was bad enough: it's like remembering the runners and riders at Ascot), now its LGBTQIA. Invent a new 'sexuality', add an initial and claim a patch of your own moral high ground....

https://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/sc-lgbtqia-letters-meaning-family-0606-20170602-story.html

 27 
 on: June 12, 2019, 12:44:17 PM 
Started by Roger - Last post by Roger
Primary school kids do not IMO need to be taught LGBT 'equality' . . .

''Protests against the teaching of LGBT equality at a Birmingham school have been halted temporarily following a high court injunction. Birmingham city council secured the injunction to protect Anderton Park primary school. The temporary order, which came into force immediately, bans protesters from an exclusion zone in the streets surrounding the school in the Moseley area of Birmingham.''

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jun/11/birmingham-anti-lgbt-protesters-banned-school-injunction

 28 
 on: June 12, 2019, 12:22:57 PM 
Started by Roger - Last post by Roger
I don't know what other K-F's might think but I can guess . . . .

Seen outside Sainsbury's Melksham, Wilts, branch - a 5 metre banner on the approach roundabout :-

               SAINSBURY'S PROUDLY SUPPORT THE LGBT+ COMMUNITY

Well good for you Sainsbury's but get back to your own Business - which is NOT politics  >:(

It's the + that gets my goat - what weirdness would that be???

 29 
 on: June 12, 2019, 12:14:42 PM 
Started by Alfie - Last post by Roger
I find this hard to believe but good to see   ;)

''Boris Johnson is the only Tory leadership candidate capable of beating both Jeremy Corbyn and the Brexit Party, according to new polling which suggests he would win a crushing 140-seat majority for the Conservatives at the next general election if he was elected Prime Minister.

The findings come as Mr Johnson launches his leadership campaign on Wednesday with the message that “delay means Corbyn”, warning Conservative colleagues the party will ‘kick the bucket’ if Brexit isn’t delivered by October 31
.''

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/11/boris-johnson-course-140-seat-majority-general-election-becomes/

 30 
 on: June 12, 2019, 12:10:48 PM 
Started by Hector - Last post by Roger
Something must be done   >:(   Plastic in the BEER now  :o   :o

''The average person now ingests five grams of plastic each week, the equivalent of a credit card, a new report by WWF has found. Researchers found that people are consuming up to 102,000 tiny pieces of plastic of less than 1mm -  250 grams each year - with nearly 90 per cent coming from water, both bottled and tap.

Other foods with highest plastic levels include shellfish, beer and salt. Alec Taylor, Head of Marine Policy at WWF, said: “Plastic is polluting our planet in the deepest ocean trenches, but now we know that it’s also polluting our own bodies, through the food we eat and the water we drink.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2019/06/11/average-person-swallows-plastic-equivalent-credit-card-every/

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