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The massive shambles in HoC of recent times has been Democracy at work ?

But thanks to the Lib Dems spotting the chance of taking some Remainer seats and the SNP sensing Tory scalps in Scotland, we have a General Election to look forward to on December 12th. Pathetic Corbyn was forced to join in to avoid looking even more absurd.

Now we have to hope this results in a Govt. with a working majority    ::)

Joy of joys - Bercow is on his way tomorrow. Good riddance ! 
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 Maybe the Guardian are trying to wake up the troops, but atm they don't predict Jeremy Corbyn as being the next PM  8)  BUT, anything can happen !   ::)

"We’re off, and Labour has it all to do. The Conservatives start the campaign with a 10-point poll lead, a margin that translates into an overall majority of about 58 for Boris Johnson, according to estimates produced by Electoral Calculus."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/29/can-labour-eat-into-projected-58-seat-tory-majority
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Yes Roger here we go and I'm sure by the 12th December we will all be as fed up with the false statements and promises as we currently are with Brexit lol.
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Good riddance !

"Boris Johnson's tribute to the at-last-departing Speaker was a vial of cyanide wrapped inside a chocolate bon-bon. Sweet and lovely on the outside, pure poison in the middle. He said the tennis-fan Speaker had presided not just as an umpire with a 'Tony Montana scowl' but as 'a player in his own right' – a reference to the Scarface mobster and an allusion to Bercow having overstepped the mark with his needless interferences.

Johnson noted how Bercow had spread his opinions like 'an uncontrollable tennis-ball machine delivering a series of literally unplayable and formally unreturnable volleys and smashes.' Translation: He's also a bully. Also, his habit of letting sessions over-run and which had 'stretched time more than Stephen Hawking'. Johnson ribbed him, too, for failing to honour his pledge to stand down last year, saying Bercow's farewell had taken longer than Frank Sinatra's.

Bercow roared with laughter but then why not, as he was yet again the centre of attention
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7632503/HENRY-DEEDES-obsequious-orgy-John-Bercows-final-PMQs.html
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I've just watched speeches from the HoC from candidates for the new 'Speaker'  ;)

Brilliant. Everyone expressed adoration for the MC Ken Clarke who leads the occasion as 'Father of the House'. No one complimented John Bugoff on his tenure.

I'd vote for Rosie Winterton or Harriet Harman myself.

Good Guys and Gals. Keep the Faith - Democracy lives . . . . .

https://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/5cd5edb1-5695-4e6f-9917-1575badfd30c
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Wow. An ex-Labour MP urging Labour supporters to vote Tory to keep Corbyn out of Downing Street as he's unfit for office.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3mMv-e1tow" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3mMv-e1tow</a>


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Thanks for that Alfie - Ian Austin's interview was moving and his comments leave Corbyn quietly damned. Following similar from Tom Watson, David Blunkett and many others, the Labour Party are in disarray  ::)

One sector Corbyn can rely on for votes, University Students, is discussed here :-

"It will come as a surprise to few that 54 per cent of 18-24 year-olds plan to vote Labour in this election, compared to just 13 per cent  for the Conservatives, according to YouGov. More intriguing is the striking parallel with data for university lecturers; 56 per cent of the latter support Labour and 11 per cent the Tories. This chilling synergy may have something to do with the fact that over half of young people now go to university.

That our higher education institutions are churning out record numbers of ill-educated, Left-leaning graduates is no secret. But a poll which a few years ago found that 70 per cent of young people have no idea who Mao Tse Tung was spells out how appalling the situation has become.

This particular example chimes troublingly with our metropolitan elite’s disgraceful ignorance of Communism’s worst horrors. Last year, Corbyn praised China’s Great Leap Forward in an interview with Andrew Marr – Mao’s policy of forced collectivisation of agriculture caused the deaths of 45 million people. That the majority of young people would vote for a party led by someone who arguably endorses the policies of the greatest mass murderer in history isn’t the only reason why the massive expansion of the higher education sector was a mistake. According to the Office for National Statistics, 31 per cent of graduates are over-qualified for the jobs they do, which amounts to about a sixth of the entire workforce. The number of vacancies in skilled occupations such as advanced manufacturing is projected to rise to 3.6 million by 2022.
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IMO it is truly absurd to send 54% of youngsters to University, where most will achieve little to help their future. They emerge with the  burden of repaying student loans often having been spent on little more than booze and frolics and they have little chance of employment relevant to their studies. IMO it's madness  ::)

Here's the DT article quoted above :-

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/11/10/impact-britains-foolish-university-drive-truly-disturbing/
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Yes Roger, Corbyn can probably rely on student votes : see https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/politics/10264764/general-election-voting-twice-register-bournemouth-university-student/
unless, that is, this scam is somehow put a top to before Dec 12th.
PS.  I know that article is from The Sun, but the information has appeared elsewhere too........!


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Thanks Hector - latest bit of news :-

WELL DONE NIGEL FOR SWALLOWING YOUR PRIDE   ;)   :D   ;D

"Nigel Farage has confirmed that the Brexit Party will not be standing in the seats won by the Conservatives in 2017, in a major boost to Boris Johnson's hopes of winning a majority.

The Brexit Party leader has confirmed that his party will not contest the 317 seats won by Theresa May and will instead focus its efforts on defeating Labour and other Remainer parties.

In a major U-turn, Mr Farage said he made the decision after concluding that standing in 600 seats would lead to a hung Parliament and pave the way for a second referendum.

He said that the Brexit Party's own internal polling had shown that standing across the country would have significantly reduced Mr Johnson's chances of winning a majority.

Speaking in Hartlepool, Mr Farage told supporters: "I will tell you now exactly what we are going to do. The Brexit Party will not contest the 317 seats the Conservatives won at the last election
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/11/11/brexit-general-election-news-latest-keith-vaz-boris-johnson/
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Whilst it is good news Roger I think the real reason is more likely to be that Mr Farage was unable to field 600 candidates, but it should balance things a bit now.
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Yes SFS, 'unable' seems to be the word - 20 of the 600 Candidates had already withdrawn last week and the Brexit Party moguls wielding the finance are in full 'wavering' mode. Apparently some Polls are showing support slipping away.

I like Nigel Farage and think he has done a great job - I hope he comes out of this saga well.

All that 'remains'  ;)  now is for the Brexit Party to withdraw more Candidates from Labour seats with 'leave' bias so we can get up to your 50 overall majority   8)

(Hector - Hopefully they'll put a stop to that Student scam - a GBP 5000 fine is sobering !)
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Well there we are  8)

I'll wager Jeremy Corbyn and Jo Swinson are greatly rueing their decision to go for a General Election  :-[
Obviously they thought they could make an impact - whoops   ;)

Had they not done so the UK would not be in action mode, as it is now.

Always I've been in favour of 'Proportional Representation' but any move towards that is out of the question as the Tories relish their dominant position now. With PR the Lib Dems would have had 70 seats apparently and we'd have a coalition again I guess.

It's democracy in action, and painful as it's been for at least 12 months, the UK has come through. It's going to be an interesting ride from now on   :)

Apparently the Fixed Term Parliament Act is for the chop - no surprise there.

(Sorry for any  confusion re. edits)
« Last Edit: December 19, 2019, 07:05:22 PM by Roger »
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Yep at last some stability in the Country. Now let's get out of the EU, get the trade deal done by December 2020 and..........................oh god it's never going to end is it!
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