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Sorry Hector - the link you 'yippee' was the LHR arrivals official website not the press. Have a look. I had to laugh at 'yippee' - haven't seen that used since I last read 'The Famous Five' books. LOL.

Eagle - I went to 'Robinson's' in Chan Sunday and had to write name, address and so on and if I'd had a smart phone, they were installing a tracing 'app'. I dropped into a little Tesco on the way back and they wanted the same !

IMHO it's all a bit OTT.
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S. Korea's 'Centre for Disease Control', has completed a study which shows that, despite indications to the contrary, those infected with CV-19 who then recover without symptoms, have immunity from re-infection AND are not infectious themselves, (the duration of this immunity is unknown but thought to be at least for some months). Dr John Campbell, if you have the time - (he says 'remarkably good news'). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uATMbGK__Tg

Dr Campbell describes S. Korea as a very advanced biomedical Country, as reflected in recent reports - density of population 525 per sq. km and just 5 deaths per million compared to the UK's 275  :(

BTW I don't claim to be an expert on any of this - hope this is of interest . . .
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Thanks SFS - good to see. Just had a look at the LHR arrivals today - another 70 flights bringing maybe 7000 PAX or more - 11 flights from the USA - I also noticed several flights each from Madrid and Rome and TG 916 from BKK !

https://www.airport-london-heathrow.com/lhr-arrivals
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Italy have now added an additional 19,000+ to their covid19 related deaths. Very sad, but good to see another Country prepared to report honestly about their situation.



 


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Hello Caller. "The study showed that some 156,000 total deaths were recorded in Italy in March and April, which is almost 47,000 higher than the average in those months between 2015 and 2019. But only 27,938 deaths were officially linked to coronavirus during that period by the Civil Protection Agency, whose toll forms the basis of national statistics, the INPS said." https://en.farsnews.ir/newstext.aspx?nn=13990303000227

We have similar intermittently from the UK and in this FT link you can see a figure of 54,000 excess deaths over a similar period, as the UK Govt works to figures now approaching 40,000 deaths. https://www.ft.com/content/a26fbf7e-48f8-11ea-aeb3-955839e06441

As you have said before, many of these statistical blips will be ironed out in due course and we'll get better comparisons.
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 Japan - ". . . 17,000 cases and 826 deaths in a country of 126 million — by far the best numbers among the Group of Seven developed nations."

An interesting read in the BKK Post, (Reuters) - Japan's 'low' death toll not due to excess heat/sun like Thailand, (probably), but Japan had NO real lockdown. Other factors mentioned - a well developed mask culture, low obesity rates, excellent contact tracing and maybe, it was a different strain of the virus ?

Japan is in a long list of Nations that with good fortune or good decision making, have escaped the worst horrors seen in Europe, the USA, Brazil etc. Others such as New Zealand, Australia, Greece, Denmark, Germany, Norway, S. Korea, Thailand and Vietnam come to mind  :)
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South America is a New Coronavirus Epicenter, WHO says

May 23, 11:16 a.m.

The World Health Organization says the coronavirus is surging in South America to such a degree that the continent has become “a new epicenter for the disease.”

Brazil is the hardest-hit nation, with more than 330,000 cases and 21,000 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins University. Only the United States (1.6 million) and Russia (335,000) have reported more cases than Brazil, the Johns Hopkins case counter said.

Other organizations tracking the pandemic have said Brazil now has more cases than Russia.

“In a sense South America has become a new epicenter for the disease,” Mike Ryan, WHO Health Emergencies Programme director, said Friday at a news conference. "We've seen many South American countries with increasing numbers of cases ... but certainly the most affected is Brazil at this point."

Authorities in Brazil have gone so far as to approve the use of hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malarial drug, for treatment against COVID-19 even though the drug is not clinically proven to be effective, Ryan said.

Though some Brazilian officials want strict social distancing measures, President Jair Bolsonaro continues to downplay the threat of the coronavirus, saying quarantines and lockdowns could have a worse impact on Brazil's economy, CNN reported. He has urged businesses to stay open.

President Donald Trump said the numbers are so alarming he’s considering a travel ban on Brazil.

Among South American nations, Peru is second to Brazil with about 111,000 cases and around 3,200 deaths.

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200124/coronavirus-2020-outbreak-latest-updates


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Yes RDRO - Brazil is under the cosh - thanks in no small measure to Barmy Bolsonaro.

Japan with it's 130 million people ended it's 'State of Emergency' yesterday having suffered about 840 deaths from CV-19  . . . Luck as always may play a part - but otherwise Japan's low toll is not easily explained after few lockdown measures and Japan having many older people.

Of course, mask wearing is second nature, they don't shake hands much and obesity is largely limited to Sumo wrestlers  ;)  Maybe a strong track and trace system helped.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Spotlight/Coronavirus/Japan-s-coronavirus-response-offers-little-clarity-and-few-lessons
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Many vaccine projects are in hand but what do we expect from a vaccine ? Here's a thoughtful piece :-

"In the public imagination, vaccines are often seen effectively as cure-alls, like inoculations against measles. Rather than those vaccines, however, the Covid-19 vaccines in development may be more like those that protect against influenza — reducing the risk of contracting the disease, and of experiencing severe symptoms should infection occur, a number of experts told STAT."

https://www.statnews.com/2020/05/22/the-world-needs-covid-19-vaccines-it-may-also-be-overestimating-their-power/
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Some details of Phase 3 easing Monday June 1st :-

"National Security Council (NSC) secretary-general General Somsak Rungsita, on Friday revealed further relaxation in the third phase in activities and shops effective from June 1"

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30388724?utm_source=slide_relate&utm_medium=internal_referral

"Under phase 3 of the lockdown relaxation, foreigners with work permits or permission from the Labour Ministry or other government agencies will be allowed to enter the country after registration, the Foreign Ministry announced on Friday (May 29)".

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30388723

"From June 1, the curfew will be reduced to 11pm to 3am, from the current period of 11pm to 4am, National Security Council Secretary General Gen Somsak Rungsita said today (May 29)."

https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30388721
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Not written by Emily Maitliss and from the independent "Independent" yesterday.

"It’s one thing to live through a terrifying pandemic, but another thing entirely to do so under a blundering government. And during the past week, as Boris Johnson’s government dodged and lied to protect an adviser, while the nation’s coronavirus death rate became the highest, the mask finally came off even for many previous supporters of this failing administration, exposing the moral vacuum behind it. In just one week, the government trashed its public reputation, with Johnson’s approval dropping an eye-watering 20 points. As news emerged that the prime minister’s aide, Dominic Cummings, flouted lockdown measures with a family road trip to Durham, the nation united in outrage."

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/coronavirus-boris-johnson-dominic-cummings-health-death-toll-a9540781.html

This DT article which pinpointed Cummings in dishonest mode - disappeared very quickly after BJ's fightback on the Parliamentary Committee last week. I wonder why ? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/26/dominic-cummingss-coronavirus-prediction-claim-undermined-emerges/
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