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As Freddie (Mercury) sings, (at the end of "I'm going slightly mad") . . . . . and there you have it   ???

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/10/25/brexit-latest-news-general-election-extension-boris-johnson/

Great clip - "TIME FOR CORBYN TO MAN UP - LET'S HAVE AN ELECTION ON DEC 12TH" . . .

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3 pertinent views here IMVVHO  ;)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/10/25/emmanuel-macron-heaps-pressure-jeremy-corbyn-back-general-election/

"Emmanuel Macron, the French president,  favours a short delay of up to 15 days rather than the three month flextension to January 31 supported by an overwhelming majority of EU leaders. " I always thought this Boy wasn't ALL bad . . . .

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/10/25/boris-needs-election-slay-zombie-parliament-has-brexit-deathly/

"Some MPs just can't handle the truth. When Geoffrey Cox boomed at them last month that this parliament was a "dead parliament" with "no moral right to sit on these green benches", they were affronted to be denounced in such terms."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/10/25/labour-moderates-arent-terrified-corbyn-will-lose-election-might/

"Their worst case scenario would not be a disastrous performance by Corbyn but a good one, one that – God forbid! – actually led him to Number 10. In such a scenario, the old Labour Party, the party of compromise and consensus, of moderation and social democracy, would be pronounced dead forever, replaced by a new, confident and belligerent form of neo-Marxism."

AND THERE YOU HAVE IT  8)
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Boris may have handed the premiership to Corbyn. I believe he will struggle to gain an overall majority and could in fact be ousted by the rainbow alliance of labour/lib/SNP/PC/Greens/etc, with Corbyn as leader.
Why take this gamble, what a disaster, the UKs worst nightmare, a Corbyn government!!


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IMO NO WAY TW !

The Lib Dems might do well but evenso would never go into coalition with Labour.
Corbyn is in for a thrashing.

Hopefully the Brexit Party will put up 50 Candidates in Labour 'Leave' Constituencies and that'll be that for Jeremy   ;)

The Tories NOT getting a working majority IS a real risk though. We'll see . . . .
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The Illiberal Dems and Labour won't form a pact unless either is prepared to move their policy on Brexit. ILD are totally opposed and won't even accept  Brexit winning at a 2nd referendum. If Labour sign up to that, they might as well slit their throats. They will be dead in the water. If the ILD shift on their policy, they will lose all the votes they think are coming their way.


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Donald Tusk appealing to 'Remainers' NOT to give up, makes the following comment :-

"I have heard repeatedly from Brexiteers that they wanted to leave the European Union to make the United Kingdom global again, believing that only alone, it can truly be great," he said, claiming to "hear in these voices a longing for the empire".

I've always thought this a shallow point and IMO this is not the motivation of the Brexit movement. But anyway, has Tusk met the Ayatollahs ?   ;)

"No Brexiteer has ever expressed a longing for empire as strongly as Guy Verhofstadt, who waxed lyrical at the Lib Dem conference back in September about the "world order based on empires". The European Parliament's Brexit pointman thrilled the Remainer masses by telling them that the only way British interests and way of life could be defended in such a climate was by "doing it together" as part of the European empire.

Although Jean-Claude Juncker protested that he found such imperialist talk "rather aggressive [and] military," he has been a key figure in Brussels' remorseless power grab
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/11/14/donald-tusk-thinks-brexiteers-longing-empire-has-met-eu-elite/
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Donald Tusk appealing to 'Remainers' NOT to give up, makes the following comment

In the grand scheme of the EU, Tusk has largely been an irrelevance. He's not been particularly successful in his role and will soon be a forgotten footnote in the history books. His opinion is of no consequence.


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I had to laugh . . .  ;)

"Jean-Claude Juncker ignored warnings over the Brexit border backstop from his British and Irish commissioners during negotiations with the UK, it has emerged. . . . Sir Julian King and Phil Hogan, the UK and Ireland’s EU commissioners, both warned Mr Juncker that the deep historical problems around the Irish border could not be overcome by a legalistic text such as the backstop."

Just MHO - I don't think JCJ IGNORED the warning about the backstop - I think he and his fellow 'ayatollahs' thought - EUREKA ! - the moment they thought they could stop Brexit. Good riddance to JCJ - if nothing else, DC was right about this creep.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/03/jean-claude-juncker-ignored-eu-commissioners-warnings-brexit/
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Juncker is a terrible liar. He recently claimed, that had it not been for his intervention, the punishment of the Greeks would have been much worse. What happened was that he wrote to the Greek negotiators agreeing to their latest proposals, which was a big shift in policy, only to be told by the negotiators that what he had written was of no consequence and didn't change anything. That particular matter was being dealt with by Schauble, at the time, Merkels trusted deputy and Juncker was just a bit player, as was proved.


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Joyous   ;D   though it is that Juncker has gone, we still have bombastic Barnier to deal with - he who wants the UK to have such a bad deal that the 27 remaining Members don't contemplate a similar departure . . . .    ::)

A sobering review in the DT on the coming 'discussions' :-

" . . . . first demand will be that Boris Johnson breaks his promise not to extend the eleven months transition period if he wants a proper trade deal. . . . . . Even if the UK did request a transition extension, it would be on the extra condition of paying a “proportional” contribution to the EU budget

. . . . . A second EU demand is that the UK agrees to grant the EU access to British fishing waters before the end of June, and it sees this as a pre-condition for any trade deal.

. . . . . Thirdly, the EU will demand so-called level playing field commitments to guarantee that the UK will not undercut European social, tax and environmental standards to gain competitive advantage after Brexit.

. . . . . And what of finance? The EU’s Commissioner for financial services has specifically warned that the bloc will restrict market access if the UK diverges too much from EU financial regulations.

. . . . . Fourthly, security cooperation will be a further condition of an EU-UK trade agreement, specifically

. . . . . A fifth demand is that the new relationship should be governed by a single overarching deal

. . . . There's more. The European Union will also attempt to make the UK sign up to freedom of movement in return for tariff-free market access.

. . This is an extraordinarily ambitious wish list, and one which seems especially ludicrous given EU officials' tendency to accuse the UK of "unicorn thinking". Still, it is Christmas I suppose...
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Bl**dy hell   :o   Here we go again . . . Good Luck Boris !! 
I'd rather a hard Brexit than give ANY of this to the EU and they can stick their Mercs, BMWs and Audi where it hurts most   :o

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/04/britain-goes-polls-eu-preparing-brand-new-list-brexit-unicorns/
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