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CK. Post recommended. That made me think !!

Reverting to President Trump himself :-

''Speaking at the conference at Yale’s School of Medicine on Thursday, one of the mental health professionals, Dr John Gartner, a practising psychotherapist who advised psychiatric residents at Johns Hopkins University Medical School, said: ''We have an ethical responsibility to warn the public about Donald Trump's dangerous mental illness.
Worse than just being a liar or a narcissist, in addition he is paranoid, delusional and grandiose thinking and he proved that to the country the first day he was President.''

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-dangerous-mental-illness-yale-psychiatrist-conference-us-president-unfit-james-gartner-a7694316.html

It's hard to hear a good word said about President Trump, except from his diehard supporters. He is being given a hard time from all directions and on any pretext. I know we have some USA K-F's and I wonder what they are feeling about the presentation of and comments about the USA and DT atm ?

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I'm not surprised to read that Trump has mental illness but I am surprised that a mental health "professional" would say that publicly without giving Trump a proper mental health examination.

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You don’t have to be an expert on dangerousness or spend fifty years studying it like I have in order to know how dangerous this man is"

I agree with that. Just read the news.
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I know we have some USA K-F's and I wonder what they are feeling about the presentation of and comments about the USA and DT atm ?


 :D :D  I think you know the answer to that, but it you aren't sure, read through some of the older threads here about US topics. See how they went down. Enjoy.  ;)
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This is about the Trump administration notorious approach on environmental issues. Published 8 days ago. Listen in particular to what they say from 2:20 for the next minute or so.


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B69D0JvkCDs" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B69D0JvkCDs</a>
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This is a tremendous article, of tremendous length, about a tremendous man, and let me tell you, the leader of a tremendous nation, the best in the world, with the world's finest military, the single best president in the world, with a great government that will make great things happen again and that has already established great relationships with countries due to the president's great chemistry, a great foundation for future things, massive, huge, greatest president in the history of.... blah blah blah.

It gives me great pleasure to introduce this great article from this great news website. A great interview with a great man.


http://apnews.com/c810d7de280a47e88848b0ac74690c83/Transcript-of-AP-interview-with-Trump


(It's too long to copy and paste, perhaps too long to read completely, but you don't need to read all of it to get your belly full of the big buffoon.)
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Nobody does Youtube videos better than Trump  ;D


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTvlTEkVBkI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTvlTEkVBkI</a>
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Alfie - just looked at that 'Youtube' - President Chump and his 25 ascendancies mocked in a wicked collection of clips.  DT's 'loose talking' style does him no favours and makes him look quite stupid sometimes. Let's see if his actions with China over N.Korea bear any fruit, or will there be a disaster out there ?

DT now moving on to greater triumphs.

‘Completely inept’: CNN pundit . . .  ;)

CNN contributor Maria Cardona offered Trump a piece of advice: “Mr. Trump, crack a book.”

“He is the president of the United States,” Cardona said. “And when he says ridiculous statements like this, it betrays his complete and total ignorance when it comes to history.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/completely-inept-cnn-pundit-says-too-late-for-trump-to-save-presidency-after-bizarre-civil-war-remarks/
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Trump has fired FBI chief James Comey, purportedly over the handling of the inquiry into Hillary Clinton's emails although Democrats seem to think it was because of the FBI's investigation of alleged links between Trump and Russia. It could get interesting.  :D

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39866170
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Yes the DT's AAP thinks the firing of the FBI Director is interesting too !  :o

''The more that the White House is embroiled in crisis and fighting for survival, the less likely that this reckless, ill-timed, late-cycle, populist, fiscal debauchery will actually occur. Larger matters are at stake of course. Mr Trump has shown that he is an irascible demagogue, with abysmal strategic judgment and prone to impetuous acts. We are dealing with a man all too capable of abusing American military power for almost any purpose and at any moment. In the thirty-five years that I have been covering US and global affairs, I cannot recall a more dangerous confluence of circumstances.''

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/05/10/trump-train-crash-ominous-hyper-inflated-asset-markets/
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''Donald Trump allegedly revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak in an Oval Office meeting last week. The Washington Post reported on Monday that Trump shared details of intelligence gathered of an Isis threat that had been closely guarded within the United States government and among close US allies.''

The same report is covered in many UK papers today.
No comment from the White House yet . .

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/15/donald-trump-shared-classified-information-russia-white-house-report
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Didn't know whether to post this in the Trump thread or French thread, so I posted it in both.
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If I remember rightly, back at the time of the election, some of us were predicting that President Trump would last NOT more than 18 months in Office before impeachment. Apparently the possibility is already being looked at :-

''Around midday on Monday, Congressman Al Green, a Democrat from Texas, held a press conference to call for the impeachment of Donald Trump. The firing of FBI director James Comey, Green said, was an obstruction of justice falling clearly into that basket of “high crimes and misdemeanors” prescribed in the constitution as grounds for impeachment.''

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/16/donald-trump-impeachment-russia-investigation-nixon

http://www.itv.com/news/2017-05-17/james-comey-memo-on-donald-trump/

Now undoubtedly DT is getting a rough if not an unfair ride from the media in the USA and worldwide. But if he continues in the same vein, an 'impeachment' could be a reality. He's not making Friends atm.

It would be nice though if DT can shake the tree a bit more before he goes.

« Last Edit: May 17, 2017, 10:25:33 AM by Roger »
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Right now it seems as though there is more energy and hot air being expended on White House dramas and crises than on matters of real import.  We non-Americans look on from a distance rather amazed and certainly puzzled.  The President of the United States and his Administration has always projected a certain worldwide respect - grudging, admittedly, by some and barring the odd 'clowns', but over the past 3 or 4 months this would seem to be a fast diminishing sentiment.  We have the in-fighting between the Oval Office and the media, the Russia and the Comey factors and - as you say, Roger, talk of impeachment.  Whilst perhaps legal and therefore possible it doesn't necessarily make it likely, I suspect, given that the Republican controlled House would have to turn on its own leader. As for the masses that support Trump, they would have to admit that they got it wrong and although 'Teflon Don' might be losing his coating a bit he still appeals to these guys and tells them what they want to hear, so I don't see that happening either.  I've rather ceased to be surprised at whatever the latest revelation is on the US political scene, but I look forward to seeing how his upcoming visits go to the three centres of monotheistic religions; viz Saudi Arabia, Israel and the Vatican, after which he is going to drop in on the NATO summit in Brussels - how magnanimous!.  His position vis-à-vis Iran will probably win him points with the Saudis and the Israelis; not sure how his visit will go with Papa Pancho in the Vatican.


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Thanks for that Hector. No doubt of it - the 24 hour media and social media plus the Democrats and some Republicans are having a go at DT at every opportunity.
Twas ever thus ? And DT surely had to expect this treatment ?

Apparently the notes of James Comey of 'that' meeting will carry a lot of weight particularly if he discussed them with others later. If tapes do exist as DT implied, that will resolve the matters decisively. Shades of the Nixon drama.

If President Trump can avoid disasters on this Foreign trip it'll give him a bit of respite but who knows ? It'll be interesting to see what he gets up to at the NATO summit and particularly, to see how the European national leaders react to his entreaties about meeting their 2% obligation.

At least DT is getting a fair hearing on KF today and I wonder what our USA KF's think about it all ?

But - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-james-comey-white-house-official-impeach-latest-a7739846.html
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The president that you can trust. :) 


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Nice one Alfie.

Going back a bit, for all the hot air being expended in Washington that Hector observed, I don't think we should think that's just all it is. Hot air makes a big balloon rise !

When a Media roll begins and combines with events and widely held antagonism, there can be a relentless pressure which often causes a change. I've noticed it in the UK sometimes - it rolls on and on until someone falls.
(Just wish that could be true of a certain J Corbyn).

Pundits and Politicians are already articulating 'Impeachment' and I have also read some comment about the possibility of a 'Resignation'.

MMMmmm.
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I wonder if USA KF's are a little wistful for the days of Obama, who is in Europe atm on a personal visit. The Guardian's writer seem to be . . . . 

''Coinciding visits, although unintentional, serve to highlight Europe’s radically different view of the incumbent president and his ‘painfully missed’ predecessor. A Pew Research Center survey last June found 77% of Europeans had confidence in Obama – and 9% in the man who has now succeeded him.''

“Already he is a painfully missed ex-president,” the newspaper wrote in an editorial, describing him as an “eloquent, charismatic preacher” – qualities it suggested were sorely lacking in Trump. Obama and Trump have not met or spoken since the inauguration, and that seems unlikely to change, especially since Trump repeatedly accused his predecessor –without any evidence – of having him bugged during the campaign.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/24/trump-international-trip-barack-obama-europe-return
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Sometimes I agree 100% with a position President Trump takes - it seems to me that he is 100% in the right about Nato funding.  ;)  I've picked some bits out of this DT article which includes a clip of Trump bullying schoolboy Macron with a tough handshake.

''Mr Trump had come to Brussels - a city he infamously referred to as a “hellhole” - to make plain that America is fed up with picking up the tab for Europe's security: some 70% of all Nato spending comes from Washington. “Over the last 8 years the US has spent more on defence than all Nato members combined,” added Mr Trump. Mrs Merkel looked as if she had swallowed a wasp, while Emmanuel Macron, the new French president, beamed a smile that mixed embarrassment and incredulity at the sheer directness of Mr Trump’s attack.''

It's been an interesting week watching Trump around the World. I must say the Pope looked a bit glum after their meeting.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/05/25/lined-like-naughty-schoolchildren-donald-trump-reads-riot/

P.S. I've just seen a pic of the new NATO HQ in Brussels ?
A cool Euro billion. Looks great !
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DT rocks the boat again.
And Angela Merkel swallows another wasp !
A bit of DT turning things upside down is good - as long as he doesn't blow anyone up.

(Sorry it's the DX . . .)

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/809557/Donald-Trump-bad-Germany-importing-foreign-cars-Angela-Merkel-Trade-Nato-G7-latest-news
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DT is dreaming! What is he suggesting? Americans should only buy American cars, and Germans buy German cars? Or does he think Germans will want to buy American cars?

As far as I am aware, I can only buy cars made by Jeep and the Mustang made by Ford, manufactured in the USA, here in the UK. All because US manufacturers traditionally cannot be bothered to engineer their cars in RHD. Cadillac tried and failed, because the product was priced at premium levels (competing with Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Jaguar) but not engineered to the same level. It was, as with many US cars, engineered to a US price point and therefore inferior to its European (and Japanese) competition when compared like-for-like. And more lax safety regulations made the situation worse.

For all DT saying he will 'make America great again' if he wants better trade, he needs to remember that America needs to produce great products at a competitive price.