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Just recently there has been a UN Ocean's Conference in New York.  The main subject was the pollution of the world's seas by plastic.  The biggest polluters are in SE Asia and, unsurprisingly, China, Thailand and Indonesia figure prominently at the top table.  The report in the BBC says:
"In Thailand, the total amount of garbage finding its way into the sea was estimated at 2.83 million tonnes in 2016 - of which 12% was plastic.  The Thai government says the nation has established a 20-year strategy to tackle the problem, including developing financial incentives for keeping plastic out of the sea and encouraging eco-packaging design and eco-friendly substitutes for plastics."
It was this second sentence that struck me as, yet again, an example of the Thais telling the world what it wants to hear, but then as always they will do precisely nothing.  I doubt we will even see a serious effort to reduce the amount of plastic bags that shops and supermarkets foist on one let alone any sort of a "national strategy".


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I doubt we will even see a serious effort to reduce the amount of plastic bags that shops and supermarkets foist on one

I know Klang Supermarket hands out biodegradable bags since years. I think it's the only one in Korat. We talked about plastic bags quickly before, see here.
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Gourmet Market bags are 'oxo-biodegradable'
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Gourmet Market bags are 'oxo-biodegradable'

Mr DIY's bags are, too (just found out).
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Gourmet Market bags are 'oxo-biodegradable'

After 2 years, during which time they are pollution.


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Gourmet Market bags are 'oxo-biodegradable'

After 2 years, during which time they are pollution.

Still better than regular plastic bags.

Even better would be to bring along your own shopping basket of course, like in good ol' days when societies were still immature.
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Gourmet Market bags are 'oxo-biodegradable'

After 2 years, during which time they are pollution.

Still better than regular plastic bags.

Even better would be to bring along your own shopping basket of course, like in good ol' days when societies were still immature.

Yes, with bags for life and other options, plus charging for plastic bags, that is what happens in many places. i even bought hessian and other such bags from the UK to use here. They work a treat.

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Hector - a bit of action in Thailand on 'plastic polution'. I saw this clip on France 24 and it is really quite interesting. Of course such actions need to be part of a 'National Strategy' but it's a well intentioned effort anyway.

Back in the UK in March Supermarkets were charging 5p for bags ! But they were selling bags for long term use, at about 15 pence which is a great idea.

Anton and Caller - bio-degradable bags are a step forward - but 2 years is a long time floating around !

http://www.france24.com/en/20170707-focus-thailand-ko-phangan-island-mass-tourism-party-plastic-pollution-trash-hero-sea

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plus charging for plastic bags

You mean a tax? Because otherwise I don't think it would change much, people would just pay the almost irrelevant amount.
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Thailand has a plan ...

to reduce 520 tons of plastic waste yearly



nwnt.prd.go.th/CenterWeb/NewsEN/NewsDetail?NT01_NewsID=WNSOC6006100010044

Bottle cap seals to be eliminated in one year

10 June 2017 (NNT) – Thailand plans to eliminate cap seals on all types of beverage bottles in one year to reduce 520 tons of plastic waste yearly, said Pollution Control Department (PCD) Director-General Jatuporn Buruspat.

The agency is cooperating with bottle manufacturers to encourage them to stop placing cap seals on their plastic water bottles with the aim at freeing Thailand of cap seals in a year.

He said the quality of drinking water will not be compromised without the cap seals as the current regulations of the Food and Drugs Administration only require for the caps to be tightly closed. The elimination of cap seals will help the country reduce the amount of plastic waste by 520 tons in a year.

Thailand produces 7,000 million bottles each year, with 2,600 million having plastic caps with a combined length of 260,000 kilometers, or 6.5 times the globe's circumference. Waste of plastic caps causes negative effects to environment as the lightweight plastic pieces are easy to spread all over on land and seas, making it difficult to collect and recycle and causing blockades in pipes and some might be eaten by marine animals.

The PCD chief added the PCD and Bangkok Metropolitan Administration plan to open more dumping sites for toxic waste to all areas in the city, given proper waste management. The dumping sites will be provided at shopping malls, schools and gas stations.
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Alfie - I suppose Thailand's plan to save 500 tons is better than nothing. A start at least but there are plenty more targets to go for.

Anton - supermarket bags in the UK. The 5 pence per bag is a simple charge and as a strategy, it seems to have been very effective indeed :-

''Tesco has been named as the supermarket whose customers have used the most 5p single-use carriers over the past year. According to statistics published by the Department for Environment Food and Rural Affairs yesterday, over 637 million bags were used by Tesco customers over 12 months. This compares to 165 million bags used at Asda, and 51 million bags used by Sainsbury's.
Tesco's share of the grocery market is around twice the size of Asda and Sainsbury's, however it sold around five times the bags used by Asda customers, and 12 times those used at Sainsbury's stores. Since rules came into force in England in October 2015 forcing retailers to charge 5p for single use bags the total number of carrier bags used at the UK's biggest retailers has fallen dramatically. Before the policy was introduced the UK's seven biggest retailers (Asda, Marks and Spencer’s, Sainsbury's, Tesco, The Co-operative Group, Waitrose and Morrisons) provided customers with around seven billion bags a year. Over the past year they sold just 1.3 billion single-use plastic carrier bags
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/21/tesco-named-supermarket-selling-5p-carrier-bags/
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Kenya showing the way:



Violators of Kenya's Tough New Plastic Bag Law Could Get Four Years Behind Bars

Making, selling or even using a plastic bag is now a crime in Kenya, punishable by up to four years' imprisonment or $40,000 in fines.

It is the latest country to put some form of regulation — ban, partial restrictions, or taxes — on the use of plastic bags, joining some over 40 other nations like China, France and Rwanda, reports Reuters. Major chain supermarkets have reportedly begun giving customers cloth bags as an alternative.

The East African nation's new law, effective from Monday, is the toughest the world has seen so far, even allowing police officers to pursue even those carrying plastic bags around. But Judy Wakhungu, the country's environment minister, told Reuters that enforcement will center first on bag makers and suppliers.

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I think this can fit in this topic too. A Bangkok Post opinionist expresses indignation over national parks' strictness against drinkers, if compared with their general lenience against litterers. Among other things, he says that Khao Yai National Park comes second in the country in terms of rubbish left down by visitors, and that "Thailand is the sixth-biggest polluter in terms of plastic waste that enters the oceans and threatens marine life". From today's paper:


Litter louts, not drinkers, the real park pests - Bangkok Post 05.12.2017
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I never noticed too much rubbish in Khao Yai but I don't doubt it.

The litter in Thailand is generally appalling. Ocean waste - at Au Yang near Laem Sing yesterday, I was happily fishing from a beach that is a true and beautiful 'tropical paradise', EXCEPT - when you look back, there are piles of litter at the back of the beach, from the ocean. Whenever I'm out I try to pack a bag or two and put it in our bin.

Litter and dogs - two points on which we in Thailand need a bit of Leadership !
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During holiday periods like New Year, a lot of Thai people go camping in national parks and other similar locations. They go in their thousands. That resullts in a huge ammount of rubbish to be dealt with. And, as it's Thailand and as it's New Year, a lot of those campers/revellers drink alcohol. Good luck to the authorities in trying to ban it. They won't succeeed (IMHO).
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During holiday periods like New Year, a lot of Thai people go camping in national parks and other similar locations. They go in their thousands. That resullts in a huge ammount of rubbish to be dealt with.

Some 500 people participated in an event inviting tourists who will visit Nakhon Ratchasima Province for New Year festivities to reduce the amount of waste they leave behind, yesterday at The Mall's "Lam Ta Kong Village" ลำตะคองวิลเลจ. Video uploaded today:


<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlYufJgtEqw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlYufJgtEqw</a>
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Why not extend an idea like this also on beaches and in parks? Why not everywhere?



Journey to clean Thailand’s oceans takes another step

Help save our seas and save on your diving trips

Building on the success of the 'Upcycling the Oceans, Thailand' project, the Tourism Authority of Thailand has officially kicked off the 'SAVE the Ocean & SAVE for Your Next Dive' campaign, offering divers the chance to earn discounts on dive trips, in return for helping to protect Thailand's marine ecosystem.

Interested divers are encouraged to take part by following just three easy steps: first, they need to inform a participating dive operator that they would like to join the project. The dive operator will then give them a special rubbish collection bag. Second, divers collect rubbish while enjoying their dive, and return the bag to receive a stamp on their 'Diving Passport'. Third, they can use the stamp to redeem special discounts on their next dive trip with a participating dive operator.

Participating operators and dive sites are located in easy reach of Bangkok, on Thailand's picturesque Eastern Seaboard – from the conveniently located Ao Sattahip and Ao Samae San in Chon Buri to the magical island of Ko Samet and the hidden gem of Hin Phloeng in Rayong province.

The Nation full report 01.01.2018
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Useless Thai fools. I get so angry about this subject. All over Thailand, volunteers of Thais and farangs regularly go down to clean the reefs of debris, almost all of which is discarded by fishing boats.

When will the brain dead twats who run this country understand enforcement is the key. Goons.


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Strewth Caller - you don't sit on the fence do you ?  :o

A different angle, I heard a report that most material for recycling goes to China BUT that they are now massively overloaded. I hope this will not affect Thailand's energetic collection of recycling material and make matters worse.

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Garbage left behind as tourists return home after holidays

Tourists left behind more garbage at New Year holiday destinations this year, report tourism operators.

Garbage behind in major tourist destinations as the tourists returned home after New Year long holidays.

Popular seaside retreats at Hua Hin in Prachuap Khiri Khan and Khao Lak in Phang Nga have reported that the amount of garbage left behind by visitors has increased sharply during this year’s festive holidays, causing environmental problems.

The Nation full report 05.12.2017
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